Made no sense whatsoever. Whenever heroes fight each other only to make up minutes later, its a weak writing, pandering or poor villains. Same thing when Thor unnecessarily fought Iron Man in in Avengers I. (Civil War was an exception since there was an actual conflict there)
shareLoki murdered 80 people in the first Avengers and Thor simply takes him, but sure, no motive there.
Hell, the scrap between Yelena and Nat had a reason behind it. The two hadn't seen each other since they were kids and are spies for two countries who aren't exactly friends. There was very little reason for them to trust each other.
still it totally didnt make any sense at all. as she came willingly(!) on the invitation(!) of the other one, its not that one ambushed the other or something.
piss poor writing this movie has, and not only concerning this fight
I think that is more of "women play men" kind of thing. If that is happening between men then it is not surprising. Men with that kind of skills need to find out who is better, one way or another they will find a reason to fight.
I don't think women do that kind of things, since they are supposed to be more down to earth. Then again I am not a woman, not sure whether that is a fair assumption.
If you think women are never competitive or petty, then you might not understand them at all. That said, this scene was a bit curious to me. Since both women deal with spies, betrayal, and brainwashed assassins, it might make sense for them to be on the defense. Aside from that, both had a grudge against the other at the time.
shareWell, like I said I am not a woman. I worked with women before in corporate environment. Their fights are more backstabbing instead of confrontational.
Then again those are only my guesses. I don't know what they do when men are not around. I am now a grown man so I am guessing it is not pillow fights :)
I'm an adult man as well but going by the female friends, relatives, and partners I've had, I've seen plenty of times when women got nasty.
shareWhat part of SPIES for the U.S. and RUSSIA are you not getting?
sharewhat part you are not getting ,last time they saw each other was caring for each other,being traumatized of getting separated.what normal human would then after a reunion of such length just throw their fists? even ending up at opposite sides
shareNo one ever changes from when they were a kid....
shareThor unnecessarily fought Iron Man in in Avengers I.
Thor is not justified in way, shape, or form. This is not a "they are both right/no one is wrong" situation.
The "mere mortals" didn't interfere in shit, Loki showed up and attacked people on Earth; and it's the 3rd time in a year Asgard did something like that. First Odin drops Thor on our planet, then Loki attacks him with the Destroyer. That's 3 incidents in which Asgardians were the aggressor and/or initiated the problem. Humanity absolutely has a right to defend itself from that. Cap and Tony were absolutely in the right to take issue with that.
I never said Thor was right. I said that it makes sense from his point of view that he would be aggressive.
sharePeople who are wrong think they're right all the time.
Thor basically walked into a room and just started throwing punches at people who didn't do anything to him OR Asgard.
Again, you are missing the point. It’s not about being right or wrong.
shareYou said Thor's actions "makes sense". No, they don't. They were the definition of irrational and trigger happy. He started throwing punches at people who didn't do a fucking thing to him. Nothing about that "makes sense", regardless of what he thought. Thor's "POV" is simply incorrect and he VERY QUICKLY backed down when it was explained what Loki did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDTYHyie6aQ
You don’t understand the difference between a character acting in a way that makes sense to their arc and a character being wrong?
shareThe first Avengers movie is the best comic book movie ever made. Every scene in that movie makes sense.
Comparing it to BW would be a big mistake.
I still don't understand how that fight was resolved. No new information came out... they could have just had the truce from the beginning. Clearly just an excuse to showcase some action.
shareThat is a sparing, I think that is what they were going for. It is about sizing each other up and determine kind of who the boss is, that kind of thing. That is usually what men do, more of a testosterone thing. In the end Natasha said "Truce", that is more of "OK, you are good" or "I think we are done".
As I mentioned before I think that is more of a "women play men", "women are as tough as men" kind of thing. Because the usual hugs and kisses are so 80s, clearly degrading women.
Thought the same thing. Also, I hate Civil War for this very reason. Just a waste of time showing good guys fighting good guys. Same with Batman Vs Superman (awful film).
Didn't enjoy Black Widow. Think it is the weakest out of the Marvel Films. Also, that post credit scene?? **SPOILER*** - So again implying that a good guy is going to fight another good. YAWN!!! She and the whole planet know why her sister died. I'm sure the sacrifice was mentioned to all, so why have this storyline put in when you just know in the first episode of Hawkeye they will be friends. Can't stand Julia Louis-Dreyfus character too.
"Also, I hate Civil War for this very reason. Just a waste of time showing good guys fighting good guys. Same with Batman Vs Superman (awful film)."
Are you sure you saw these movies? The motives were pretty clear.
I did. Yes it was clear for both films, but still I don't like seeing good guys against good guys. Just think it is a waste of time, like a filler film.
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