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Chloe Grace Moretz as Yelena


I enjoyed the movie and Florence Pugh was really good, but I wonder how Chloe would have done in the role? I definitely would have liked to see that

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I think she definitely could, then again she is probably more expensive.

Also this role may not be very prominent in follow on movies or TV shows, maybe a more established actor like Chloe won't take it.

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Hmm yea I didn’t think about that, she might be more expensive but I think they have plenty to pay whoever.

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Not just about this movie, once you signed on you are committed to all the follow on shows, and this role might not be very prominent, could be just a low profile sidekick in the follow on shows.

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I don't consider Chloe a real powerhouse actress. She isn't exactly an A lister herself.

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No, she isn't. But she is a lot more established than Florence Pugh.

I don't think Pugh would hesitate at all to sign onto MCU franchise, would have agreed to whatever terms Marvel wanted. I mean this is the big league, great opportunity for a nobody.

Chloe might not be that easy.

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Chloe doesn't have anything upcoming besides voicework, and Pugh has 4 movies scheduled after getting an Oscar nomination. I'd expect Chloe to do a backflip over an offer to be in a Marvel movie at this point in her career. She definitely doesn't have the weight to demand a big paycheck these days. It's a finicky business in Hollywood, and stars crash and burn all the time. Chloe had a decent run, but I think she's already in the twilight years of her career.

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I am not sure. I think at least half of the planet knows Chloe. And this is the first time I heard about Pugh.

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She's a foreign actress which is undoubtedly part of it, and relatively new in her career but in high demand. Chloe's biggest roles are almost a decade behind her with nothing in the horizon. Plus, Pugh is recently an Oscar nominee, and Chloe has never been recognized as an acting powerhouse. Nothing against Chloe, she's been fine in everything I've seen her in, but nothing spectacular either, unless you go all of the way back to Kick-Ass. Hollywood learned a long time ago that recognizable doesn't equal box office draw.

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Established at what? When was her last hit? Her most well-known roles were from when she was a kid.

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I'd say she's got more weight than Florence atm. Florence is rising.

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I actually think Florence is rising and Chloe is dropping. The last movie she did was Tom and Jerry. She hasn't been in a blockbuster in 8 years, and besides Greta, nothing of note in that time, and nothing upcoming except voicework in the animated Adams Family sequel. Most mid-level actors only get a 5-8 year shelf life, and I think hers is done.

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I actually think Florence is rising and Chloe is dropping.


Yes. This is true.
What's also true is that Chloe has more weight than Florence atm. And Florence is rising.
Chloe would pull a much larger salary than Florence for the same role in Widow.

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If she still had weight in Hollywood, I would think she would have an upcoming acting roll. Her demand just isn't there, so it's improbable that she could expect a big paycheck when she can't get work as it is. I think she HAD weight, for sure, but that time is past.

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I don't buy that at all. Pugh is a rocket ship -- and with an Oscar nom already under her belt, the chops for more. And I think Moretz would die for a Marvel film at this point. She hasn't capitalized on her early success as a child actress. It's been more miss than hit since those days. You won't see Pugh acting with Tom & Jerry like she just did -- or in something like Neighbors 2 - Sorority Rising. The tide turns quickly if you don't fulfill the early promise. Pugh has everything right now -- indie cred, critical acclaim, and a tentpole film. She has the career Moretz was supposed to have.

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She wasn’t even considered for Yelena, and tbh I don’t think she should have been. But lol, I remember when everyone (i.e. audiences) wanted to cast Chloe in everything. Yeah, but not me. Hard pass.

Now Chloe is cool, but the physicality of the role aside, I cannot imagine her being anywhere near as great (even natural) as Florence was. Florence, a much stronger actesss, was perfection as Yelena and she absolutely owned the role (it’s obvs why Marvel chose her). Glad she’s in this universe and it’s looking like she’s deservingly becoming a much bigger deal.

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Moretz may be a more recognizable name to people, but I'd argue Pugh is the better actress. I definitely couldn't see Moretz doing Yelena as well as Pugh did. Not only that, but Marvel has a good track record with casting actors who are relatively unknown for major roles.

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I definitely could see her doing stuff like Pugh did. Kick-Ass movies... And even her actions in Shadow in the Cloud which came out in this year were good, she only needs a better agent to cast in a better films.

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Not saying she couldn't do the action, I just don't think she could act the part as well.

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All I could think while watching this was how Pugh was a more attractive, more talented version of Moretz.

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Lol. I thought I was the only one who thinks Florence Pugh sometimes reminds me of her. However, I would love to see that, but Florence nailed all her scenes, so...

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