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A great movie. Marvel Studios should make SOME movies like Logan and The Wolverine.

posted 2 years ago by LoganX23 (5)
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Some would say Logan is perfect, I kind of agree. Watched it many times. Marvel Studios should start making SOME movies like this one. And not just movies like Deadpool and only Deadpool. And fans do want some of their movies to be something like 2017's Logan, 2013's The Wolverine and the original 1998 Blade movie, heck even the recent 2019 Joker movie. There is clearly a market for that, many fans do want it or they would not be buying any the of action figures and merch. They (Disney) made the Prey movie, just this year... there should be no excuses?!?!

Imagine they have Jeremy Renner's SHIELD Agent Clint Barton in a Hawkeye / Ronin movie trilogy made by those who've made Logan? They need to do it. Same goes for a X-23 movie trilogy as well.

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

Logan is still, I think, my favourite superhero movie because it put the characters first and seemed to genuinely want to tell their stories and show their relationships. Most superhero movies feel like they have excuses to get to eye lasers and flying demigods. Even a lot of the better ones just have fun, relatable excuses to get to the rock-'em-sock-'em robots fights. That's fine for what it is, but it's gotten dull.

If more superhero movies emphasized the characters (as people, not as one-liner machines), they'd be a lot better off.

[–] LoganX23 (5) 2 years ago

Absolutely. This Logan film is right up there with the 1994 original Crow film starring Brendon Lee.

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

I rewatched The Crow recently, and that film is a masterpiece. Of course, it is impossible to watch it without feeling all the sadness of Brandon Lee's story. But even without the poignancy of the real life aspect, the movie is great. Every frame is slick and cool, full of mood. The storytelling is extremely well done and the cast is populated by wonderful character actors who feel weirdly like real people AND like comic book characters. It's great. I think the only flaw I can find with the film is the out-of-sync sound/ infinite ammo guns Eric uses in the big shootout scene. But that's a nit-pick.

[–] M1sterDoct0r (4439) 2 years ago

I wish we got more MCU films with a "serious tone". I don't dislike the humorous films but if every film is a comedy, it gets tiresome (Same the other way round)

We need films like The Winter Soldier to balance out every Thor: Love & Thunder.

I feel like even Deadpool's MCU debut isn't gonna feel unique at this point. Cause they've basically made most of the characters Deadpool lite versions.

Everyone's quipy. Everyone's got one liners.

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

That's kind of a nutshell reason for my "superhero fatigue," and I think a lot of people's superhero fatigue: it's just all so "samey". It's either MCU action movies with quips or it's DCU or FOXO X-Men movies, which are basically just action movies without anything really unique anymore. The aesthetics are all so similar, the looks are all the same, and the joke-action ratio is meticulously homogenized.

This is why films like Logan, Joker, Deadpool, and The Batman - which break the standard moulds - feel better. Heck, this is why I still think earlier superhero films like Batman Returns, Blade, and Spider-Man hold up: they each have their own vision and follow their own ideas.

[–] M1sterDoct0r (4439) 2 years ago

Yes! Nailed it. That's one of the MAIN reasons I enjoyed Werewolf by Night so much.

It was so different. It felt unique. One of the best comicbook projects in my opinion.

Even shows that started off really well & felt original like WandaVision & Moon Knight just turned into the samey formulaic superhero stuff we've seen over & over again.

Like I hated the final episode of WandaVision so freaking much. I hate that it devolved into that

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

I don't have Disney+, so I don't know any of those shows, although I have heard good things about WandaVision and Werewolf by Night. Yes, I have heard that WandaVision gets less interesting at the end. I will probably still watch it, though.

It's a shame that box office numbers aren't more definitive in terms of favouring original approaches. Unfortunately, far too many generic-type films - not just MCU - make bank, so the studios know it works.

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

Or at least make unrated special versions of the theatrical PG-13 films. So tired of the PG-13 stuff.

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

There aren't a lot of PG-13 comic book movies that would really benefit from an R rating, though. Maybe a few Batmans, but I can't picture The Avengers getting better with everybody cursing and buckets of gore sloshing around on the screen.

While I acknowledge that movies are better when the studio ignores the rating and lets the filmmaker tell the story their way, there are plenty of amazing comic book movies that don't need the R (Spiderman and Spiderman 2, for instance, or the original Superman film from the '70s). Heck, even Burtons Batman movies are plenty dark and spooky without needing an R.

For some time now I have found this fixation on "R Rating = Good," to be an odd one.

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

Deadpool. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[–] Ace_Spade (9616) 2 years ago

Nausicaa

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] naDaht (1087) 2 years ago

Batman '89 would be a better film if it was R.