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Am I the only one? Closure!


What happened to "Old Nick"? We see the arrest report on the TV, but anyone who knows the Castro kidnappings, Steven Stayner, etc., you just want to pronounce sentence right there and fire a .357 hollow point into the back the the kidnapper's throat. In the novel it mentions Nick is facing 25 years, but they do not show this in the film.

Yes, I understand the focus of the film is Jack and Ma, and Yes, I understand how they think it could send a message that someone could get their 15 minutes if they kidnap someone and it might glorify their actions by showing it on the news. But there is justice, and I think that people who harm other humans like this forfeit their rights to due process. They are a waste of oxygen to descent human beings, and a bullet cost less than a dollar, unlike prison or death row.

But this is the nation we live in. If he did go to prison, thank goodness for daily ass rapings and fistings for persons such as this.

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It would have been more interesting if they followed up on Old Nick's trial at least a little bit. The movie was interesting until they escaped, then it dragged quite a bit.

Due process is for all American citizens. People like Bin Laden forfeit due process because they are not US citizens.

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Knowing he got arrested was closure enough for me. This is not the type of movie that is going to spoon feed the audience.

You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi

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The film literally ends with "say goodbye to Room". Getting hung up on what happened/will happen to Old Nick is counter-intuitive to the message of the film

You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.

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Emma Donoghue has said she did not want this story to be about the rapist.
She wanted him marginalized.
She went with Lenny Abrahamson because he understood the novel and what she was saying.
Another director might have twisted the story into s exactly what Donoghue was trying to avoid.

The Wizard Has Spoken

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I thought it was handled just right. We saw as little of him as possible. And no graphic sex. They way they handled that part, from Jack's point of view, was even more disturbing.

Joy went through hell. Kept her spirits up for her son. And people wonder why she fell apart after being rescued.

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That's not justice, it's revenge. What people who do that deserve is not the publicity of a trial, but to be locked away and forgotten forever, just what they tried to do to their victims, but with actually nobody remembering them at all. That's what they did to Old Nick here.

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No offense, but you are a typical American movie goer. Everything has to be wrapped up, neat and tidy.

Real films leave things to your imagination. That is why this film is so good. Take for instance, Joy's suicide attempt. No where is it referenced by the words "suicide attempt" but any viewer with a brain realized what occurred.

As far as closure on Old Nick, that is left up to the viewer's imagination. For me he was sentenced life in federal prison, and subjected to prison "justice". IE physical, emotional and sexual abuse. Exactly what he did to Joy.

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For me he was sentenced life in federal prison, and subjected to prison "justice". IE physical, emotional and sexual abuse. Exactly what he did to Joy.


That's the kind of "rough" justice I believe is a fitting punishment for Old Nick.

But then I don't have any scruples with respect to the concept of revenge, either.





45 Years: 9
Son of Saul: 10
The Witch: 8.5
Bridge of Spies: 8.5

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Why do you Americans love killing defenseless people so much?

What would a murder solve? Personally, I'm a believer in the rule of law, not the jungle.

If only the "strong" survive - actually the cowards with firearms - then the "weak" & defenseless will always suffer. The strong always prey upon the weak.

I also find your violent homosexual fantasies pretty confronting too. Your prescribed treatment of somebody who cannot defend him/herself is precisely the sort of treatment that imprisoned & enslaved mother & son!

Take a long, hard look at yourself in the mirror. You are, by your own admission, just as much of a perverted sexual predator as Old Nick was portrayed to be!

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Stop making excuses for Old Nick.

In prison he will get a taste of his own medicine.



45 Years: 9
Son of Saul: 10
The Witch: 8.5
Bridge of Spies: 8.5

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Well, lets see. Killing old Nick would GUARANTEE he would never hurt another soul AND it would save hundreds of thousands of dollars that would be wasted, keeping him alive. You must be British or French where people like you sit and calmly watch your country being taken away from you. Enjoy Sharia law.

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Shooting Nick wouldn't be murder, it would be morally justifiable execution. Under a progressive system, however, he will probably be eligible for parole, and will be released to enjoy life and resume harming innocent people.

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I liked it better that the closure didn't involved a reunion with Old Nick or some court trial.

I think the fact that he is barely mentioned again after the escape it part of what makes this film so brilliant.

So many stories align "closure" with justice. This film, however, aligned closure with Ma and Jack simply growing past the traumas of room.

The last scene of them saying "goodbye" to the room and walking away from their past offers more closure to me as a viewer than some long, drawn-out court scenes would have. The ending wasn't about forgetting Old Nick and moving past the trauma he caused, but more so forgetting about ROOM and the traumas that happened within it.

At the end of the film, there is no need for closure with Old Nick because Old Nick no longer even exists to them.

There is another reason to fill your heart with hatred.

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I get all that but it would have been oh so satisfying to see Joy, or better, Jack stick a screwdriver into Old Nick's brain, via his eye! (during a struggle, of course) ;)

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"Closure" is a myth designed to help people who haven't been through something terrible feel better about moving on from worrying about people who have.

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There can never really be "closure" for such crimes, but there can be some level of satisfaction from seeing the perpetrator get his comeuppance.

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