Really you do not present much of an argument, but assertions. BvS made $873 M world. 63% of the audience liked it on RT. Justice League did okay. 74% liked it on RT. DC CBM will continue on.
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Oh man did you just screw up, its almost like you intentionally said things that I can easily destroy you on....
ok here with go, I'm now going to go point by point and obliterate you ....
BvS made $873 M world
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right and due to WB letting the budget balloon out of control to 350 to 400 Million, BvS Made ONLY a small small 100 Million dollar Profit....for example to let you know how bad that is, Marvel Studios made more profit from Ant-Man 1, despite it making only 519 M WW....
Next the reason why 863 is Truly awful is because, Exceptions for BvS were 1.5 Billion....With 1 Billion + being the Floor....Man Of steel just made 670 M, and Now WB was adding Batman for the first ever Cinematic Meeting between B+S, The Last 2 Batman films that featured ONLY Batman both Made over 1 Billion....there was not 1 box office site or analyst that predicted BvS to make Less than 1 Billion....The Fact that BvS Literally Made almost 200 Million dollars less than The Last SOLO Batman film is nothing but a colossal and unimaginable FAILURE
Next,within 2 weeks of BvS's release, WB DEMOTED Zack Snyder, and hired Berg and JOhn's to now run the DCEU branch, and Most embarrassing, WB canceled an entire JL film immediately after BvS's release, JL was announced, Greenlit and already had release dates to be a 2 parter....after Snyder shit the bed with BvS, WB forced him to make the film into just 1 film, lol and not only that, they mandated Johns had to over see the entire production , be on set looking over Snyder should.
and finally, Lets not forget, BvS is directly responsible for Suicide Squad being a complete mess, as WB went into full panic mode after BvSs release and wildly interfered in Suicide Squads post production, SS was Done, It was a completed film, after BvS came out to universally hatred, WB tried to complete change the TONE of an already completed film, They hired a completely new Editing company to come in and make a different cut of the film to try and lighten the tone and add humor, lol and then astonishin(and I've never heard of this ever being done before) They held 2 different screenings for test audiences, 1 showing the directors cut of the film, and 1 showing The New cut made by an outside editing company, and decided which ever one tested better was the one that was going to be released....the new cut won, just barely, this of course resulted in disaster with The film getting torn apart for being mess
this is not an exaggeration, about the ONLY thing you can say about BvS's box office in a positive light is.....It didnt flop....thats it....It disappointed in every way possblle , It was a disastrous, It didnt get close to exceptions, It ruined at least 3 future films, It got people fired and demoted....But It didnt flop
63% of the audience liked it on RT.
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please for your own sake due some research before throwing shit out....
lol BvS's cinema score(The Only true way to track Audience reactions) was a B-....The Awful , Literally among the worst ever for a CBM, Its the same score has Catwoman and Green Lantern....
Next BvS, Had near historic Box office Drops after Opening weekend, and in some cases Literally Never before seen Drops....This is from a direct result of Word of mouth not only being bad but POISONOUS
DC CBM will continue on.
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right DC CBM's will go on....but "The DCEU" the started with BvS is DEAD...Its creator(Snyder) is fired, Its Dark, Depressing and colorless tones are no more, replaced now with extremely colorful movies filled with humor like Shazam and Aquaman, all future movies are intentionally being written to distance themselves from The DCEU, WW1984 is intentionally written and taking place in this time so it can be a solo film free of any Justice League connections....The Flash movie is based on Flash point but All Justice League characters have intentionally been written out to distance itself from The FAILED JL Film and FAILED DCEU...
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billbrown7071 (3195)
6 years ago
and its now confirmed BOTH Cavil and Affleck are out as B+S, With Batman being completely rebooted and no Superman movies coming for years....
lol the DC films Will always "Go ON"....but the DCEU is DEAD....and its DEAD as a direct result of BvS being the biggest Trainwreck nt Hollywood history....It was supposed to start a Cinematic Universe, Instead we now know It In fact KILLED a cinematic Universe, It was so awful, so wrong, There was truly no way to recover from it....
Justice League did okay. 74%
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I almost didnt even respond to this as I didnt know if you were entirely serious but now I do think your serious so I'll go ahead and embarrass you...
by "Okay" do you Mean A film that LOST at least 60 Million Dollars?
By "Okay" do you mean a Film The Astonishingly resulted in BOTH DIRECTORS being fired(has that ever happened before) lol BOTH Zack Snyder and Whedon were Fire once thier cuts were shown....Snyder was fired immediately after showing his first cut to WB....Whedon was brought on, Completed the film, immediately after its release, Patty Jenkins demanded he be fired after seeing the film and seeing what He did with Wonder Woman in The film
By "okay" do you mean, Never getting a Sequel?
By "Okay" do you mean Awful reviews, bad cinemascores, average audience scores, MONSTER Box office Drops due to Bad WOM....
By "Okay" do you mean nearly All Cast members coming out and speaking against the film saying they were disappointed in what made the cut and didnt make the cut...
By "Okay" do you mean a film that had "Avengers Type Potential and expectation" yet couldnt even mount HALF of its box office in ANY WAY...I mean Literally In every way possible JL couldnt even equal 50% of Avengers Box office....
*JL made 93 Million OW....thats not even half of The Avengers 207 OW
*JL Made 228 Million domestically, thats not even half of The Avengers 620 M
*JL made 647 Million WW, thats not even HALF of The Avengers 1.5 Billion +
were talking about the biggest missed opportunity in Hollywood history here, A film that had 1.5 Billion + potential and could have been a 3 to 5 film franchise and Its DEAD after 1 film and Your saying thats "Okay".....your entitled to your opinion, But I can guarantee theres not 1 exec at WB, saying at board meeting "JL did OKay", Theres not 1 box office analysts saying "JL did Okay"
lol Marvel Studio is currently on thier 4th Avengers film(5th if you count Civil War) and The Avengers franchise is now Officially The Biggest box office draw and attraction in Hollywood History, Its the only franchise in History to have 4 straight films open over 175 Million, make over 400 Million domestically and make over 1.150 Billion, most recently Setting the all time Opening weekend record with the latest Avengers film and becoming only the 4th film ever to top 2 Billion....Avengers Is literally Biggest box office draw and attraction ever, has resulted in 6 Billion dollars+ and could go on forever.......and WBs Justice League franchise is DEAD after 1 film where they LOST 60 Million.....
lol A Franchise that could have and should have resulted in 6 Billion +....Is DEAD after 1 film .....and you think thats ""Okay"
at this time, You should log off your computer, go smoke a cig, and feel SHAME!
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TheGothamCat2007 (44)
6 years ago
The only thing that's more embarrassing than the DCEU is your grammar lol! I mean you completely butchered the English language retard...not only that but you also indirectly say something positive about DCU by admitting that if WB would get competent executive producers and director that Justice League would very likely rival Avengers, well I don't know what your problem is with DC, maybe it has something to do with your claim that DC fans are obnoxious trolls but Marvel fanatics are just as obnoxious and immature as any DC fan, so maybe both sides just need to give it a rest cause this is getting out of hand.
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jasonbourne (1027)
6 years ago
First, you didn't make any argument of the kind until I brought it up; Your OP has no argument whatsoever. My argument is not comparing apples and oranges as you are doing, but judging BvS on its own merits. Snyder was successful with DoD (1978), 300 and others. The writers were David Goyer and Christopher Nolan. So no problem there. However, MoS did not turn out as fresh like the Christopher Reeve version. It was not terrible either. Henry Cavil made for an excellent Superman when Reeve was pegged as the status quo. What happened to the MoS vision by the creative team incl Snyder is really murky. I think Snyder wanted to lay the groundwork first by having a Superman series like the Dark Knight trilogy. However, some force in the process made the decision to go with MoS in the can vs letting the release date slip and making it better. The people in charge were ready to make a better movie to kick off its franchise, but some group wanted to release it ASAP. Thus, the mixed reviews.
After the mixed reviews, what is the direction to go? Again, the background story becomes murky and it *appears* that Snyder is the one to lead putting the new Superman franchise into mothballs and release BvS. I'm not sure if this is the case as Snyder wanted Wonder Woman, Aquaman and others. For some reason, the production team became impatient-greedy. Once BvS (and Justice League) was given the green light, I think it was pretty much under the same guiding force as MoS. Moreover, expectations were stratospheric for BvS and understandably so. When it didn't meet expectations, that's when the critics came out of the woodwork en masse. Who's to blame? It's Nolan and Goyer, I think. They picked Zack Snyder to helm the critical reboot. Even with Snyder on board, his initial plan was to bring the Superman storyline and reboot up-to-date per his vision. This vision changed once MoS was in the can. It could be some other prod person(s), but they're unknown.
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