Yeah so I'm trying to figure out why saving JFK cause the destruction of what seemed to be all of America. Or at least that town.
shareBecause numb nuts altered the future, and the s**t hit the fan, big time!
Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar, and / or doesn't.
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I've never been a fan of JFK but he did keep us safe during the Cuban Missile Crisis. His generals were suggesting we go to war and fire our nukes but JFK stood his ground and said no. I have to give him credit for that.
Otherwise, he really wasn't outstanding as President. His legislation was floundering in Congress and he got us into Vietnam to a large-scale. I know I've seen people talk about how he was gonna get us out but after he was assassinated, the plans changed. I have yet to see the govt. document to which these conspiracy people are talking about.
After his death, a mythos was created by the media that somehow he was this wonderful President and blah, blah, blah. If he had lived, no one would have thought much more about him.
Check your history, JFK was deescalating Vietnam, it was Johnson who went in both barrels blazing and poured more teenagers at the Vietnamese over a ten year period. Some say it was JFK's reluctance to get into the Vietnamese war that led to his assassination, the saying goes "rich men make money in wartime"
shareAnd here is another dumb butt question... didn't we basically loose the war in Vietnam? I'm pretty sure I remember reading/doing homework years ago in high school that says we lost. If what you are saying has any small amount of facts in it killing JKF because he refused to go to that war was a waste of time because America totally lost said war. -.-
On another note I still haven't figured out how America wins againist Japan with the "fat man" but fails epically in regards to Vietnam. Actually I'm going to do a little googling on history real quick. I can't even remember WHY we even got involved in that war. I can understand Japan since they kamikaze Pearl Habor but Vietnam seems like it was none of our business? Maybe one of those nukes drop on Japan should of have been used in the Vietnam war. Kinda feeling like we over killed Japan. Saw this documentary on Netflix recently about the nukes on Japan. After the first bomb was dropped it seemed like MORE then enough damage was done. Not sure why we dropped ANOTHER freaking bomb on them. Yes it was war but for goodness sake, two nukes?
Gah War sucks. Why don't we all just go sing Kubaya and vape weed together. Sounds like more fun then killing fellow humans for idiot reasons.
Yes we lost Vietnam, not only the war, but public sentiment was discouraging to those who did fight, coming home to hatred and protest...oddly placed against the men who took direction and fought in that war, it was not their decision they were forced to go fight in that war. Ask ant veteran of that war, they will tell you. Also, eventhough there were reports of horrendous things happening between some of the US war units and the Vietnam Cong, like the news coming out of Afghanistan and Iraq, much of it was made much of by journalists looking to make a name or downright false, not all of the men who fought that war escaped without some mental or physical wounds on both sides.
As far as the H-bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki that was Harry Truman, (who became president when Roosevelt died),and was responsible for dropping those bombs, primarily because the Japanese kept fighting despite the fact that world war 2 in Europe was over, cease fire had already been declared, but (they were working on the agreements still) it was thought that the Russians would team up with the Japanese and escalate it even more. Did he jump the gun? Absolutely....it was shameful, not well thought out and made the world look at America in a different way....it was one of the reasons the Cold War persisted so long with mistrust between USSR and America escalating with the Cuban Missile crisis, during the Kennedy administration, dealt with in the most appropriate way, without a shot fired, but nuclear arms being removed from Cuba and the Ukraine as a result, perhaps the beginning of the end of the Cold War that ended with Regan.
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With hindsight being 20/20 King understands just how miraculous it was we survived the Cold War.
That is why Sadie keeps asking about the future and joins Jake in his obviously insane plan. The world had just came through the Cuban Missile Crisis and a dozen other not so publicized incidents. She needed Jake to be a real time traveler because that means the world survived.
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I only read the book. I assumed it was not Kennedy that caused anything, but the foiled assassination was the thing Jake stopped, but he had no idea how many other things were affected by what he did.
He assumes it was what he did. Maybe it was something. But he doesn't know. In the book, at the end he is afraid to do anything in 1958 after the last reset, because he doesn't know what he will affect. Saving Kennedy affected a heck of a lot.
The TV show would leave you believing that the dystopian future was a result of the butterfly effect from JFK living, not necessarily due to anything JFK did, but because things changing have massive trickle down effects that wouldn't seem to correlate to the original cause.
However, in the book it is a result of something entirely different. The explanation is brief and confusing, but my understanding was that each trip through the rabbit hole was not actually a complete reset, rather, it opens a new timeline. These "strings" form the "fabric of time" and the more they stray from the rest, the more the foundations of reality start to crumble. So with such a big change as JFK surviving, there started to be major earthquakes and natural crumbling which lead to all kinds of other problems.
So it turned out that it wasn't that saving JFK was necessarily a bad thing, it's just that our reality couldn't withstand such things happening. Which also gives a better explanation for Jake deciding to go back to the future/present and not try to be with Sadie.
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