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Mysterious Hooded Figure on the Chair?


When we first see that red chair in the middle of the room, I thought they'd found Satan. It wasn't much of a throne but that's what I thought, lol

Who was the hooded figure who was sitting on it? Does anyone have a screen cape of him and his face?



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I'm guessing demons. It seemed a bit too random and small scale to be "Satan", and there were multiple figures, so demons seems most likely. That was also the most memorable part of the movie for me though. It was really subtle, and not violent at all, yet extremely creepy. Something about crawling through a hole in the bottom of the earth, and seeing a mundane wicker chair with a hooded figure in it is freaking terrifying.

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Just a theory... but perhaps the chair looks like the one that Scarlett's father used to hang himself?

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Grim reaper. It seems most of this film draws from the Christian interpretation of hell.

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no-its actually Dante's inferno

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Dante's Inferno is based on christian belief. So if it's based on the Inferno, it's also based on christian mythology.

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It's actually not-there is nothing in the OT or NT about the levels of Hell-nothing whatsoever. Judas is in the poem, but that's about it. Its a creative poem written in the 1300s

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This films seems to have cut, copied, re-dited, watered down and pasted together several different Christian mythologies together.

I honestly thought that the film was making some sort of reference to Dante's Inferno (Dante Alighieri's 14th-century epic poem). However, it also uses some of the old-school Philosopher's stone alchemy and some people have pointed out a few other influences (The Crusades and something that started with an 'H'.)

The figure in the chair COULD have been intended to represent the devil (at one point I think you see the character's breath, which suggest coldness and that as hell is described by Dante). Although, it was not really clear.

Also, does it make sense that people are punished -- by heaven for hell -- merely for feeling guilty about something that they probably could not have actually prevented or stopped?

The Mole went into the 'undiscovered' parts of the Paris caverns and got lost. His friends did go looking for him, but could not find him. I am not sure that qualifies as leaving him to die.

Another character's younger brother drowned (when they were both kids) and the way that he describes it, their is no way that he could have actually saved his brother.

The heroine Tomb Raider-wannabe character had NO way of knowing that her father was suicidal. At least, from how it is described in the film. I can understand feeling sad or having "survivors guilt", but punishment from beyond the grave tends to be based on the idea that someone "deserves" it.

At least with a car accident, their is some sort of implication that the character somehow caused or contributed to the accident that killed some of his friends (and left him with some scars).

Maybe...expecting Hell to play fair is not terribly reasonable, but it seemed like a plot hole/flaw IMHO.

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If you recall the heroine ran into her father hanging and hugged him telling him she was sorry for not picking up the phone. This was the guilt she had. Had she picked up the phone he might not have killed himself.

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I also thought of the Grim Reaper. It's possible there could be more than one, and they guide you to Hell.

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I didn't think he was the Devil at all. He wasn't powerful nor did he seem like the genius that created that mind *beep* they were in. He was easily pushed over and that removed all of his ability to come off as a threat.

I did however think the lady in the white dress that appeared at the club and in other scenes could possibly be the devil.

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The guy who was pushed over was the wall monster that bit the other guy. The big hooded guy was just kinda big and hooded.

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And he just disappeared right?

I believe they get past him and turn around and he is gone

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That's why I think it might have been Satan. He wouldn't have needed to be some monstrous winged demon. And he would have just appeared and disappeared since he would have no real power over the survivors yet. It's almost like he was surprised they had made it into that room and found him. Those are just my thoughts though.

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I can see where you are getting at. Especially since every movie I have seen that tries to portray Satan he never really seems to have real power. To me his only power seems to be the power of convincing the weak.

It's hard to explain my position on this thought, but I enjoy discussing it. I think in the movie we saw Satan portrayed as different people on Earth. Satan is never himself on Earth he seems to always need a body to be in. Perfect example would be Devil's Advocate with Al Pacino. I think Satan was the girl in the white dress also. I will also have to watch again to see who could also be Satan or if it is just the two people that we mentioned. Everyone else just seemed to be ghouls or whatever you want to call them.

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I think he's a Satan figure.

The lowest circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno is frozen, and Virgil and Dante must pass by Satan and climb down his fur to exit.

When the final three pass by the dark hooded figure, their breath is clearly visible.

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Maybe he was in the opposite version of the KKK.

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Dragonair88 writes: "Who was the hooded figure who was sitting on it?"

He was the fear of Death that was haunting Zed, right?


"Maybe it's another dimension. Or, you know, just really deep." --Needy

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Evil cult or demons.


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I thought that each character who appeared in hell -- other then the main explorers -- was the spirit of someone who an explorer had "wronged" or felt guilty about. Based on that theory....

Pap is killed by people he killed in a car accident or maybe he was guilty because was survived with only some burns.

Souxie was killed by "The Mole" (who had died when the ceiling fell in the treasure room or...the first Mole we saw was a kindly spirit and the second was an evil one). Souxie did something bad to the Mole when he was alive or the Mole was just killing her to get back at Pap.

The Mole had lived underground for awhile and had decided to go into the "bad" part of the Catacombs for some reason. I think the character was suppose to be homeless, perhaps somewhat "developmentally disabled".

Ben -- the doc. filmmaker/camera man -- was killed by the leader of the "chanting cult" (as I like to call them). You saw her briefly outside the nightclub. So, she either died and came back to seek revenge on Ben or she was a demon who didn't like documentary film makers.

Scarlett could have been killed by her father, because she didn't answer the phone right before her father committed suicide. But she apologized.

George could have been killed by his younger brother who drown, although it didn't sound like it was really George's fault. But he apologized.

Zed -- I think that he mentioned (just before the end of the film) what was haunting him.

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Zed -- I think that he mentioned (just before the end of the film) what was haunting him.


It was the fact that he knew he had a son but kept denying it. You see the boy for like 2 seconds.



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@ FullyOperationalSamaritan,

Thanks, I missed that!


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Although if the son was not dead, wouldn't that disrupt the apparent rules set up in the film, namely the dead "haunting" people who "did them wrong" or something
of that sort

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sohrmn writes: "Although if the son was not dead, wouldn't that disrupt the apparent rules set up in the film..."

I don't think that the characters are necessarily haunted by the dead, they are haunted by guilt and regret.

Scarlett abandoned George in Turkey, and she seems to expunge her guilt by going back for another "stone" to heal him.


"Maybe it's another dimension. Or, you know, just really deep." --Needy

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The figure in the chair was 1. A reference to Scarlett's dad suicide. Maybe he used a chair. Or 2. Some sort of middle management demon. 3. Satan or something to do with the chanting cult.

The I others are largely haunted by their guilt/sins committed against the dead.
Zed may be haunted by the guilt of a living child he ignores, but the others seem to be more hauntings, especially with the mole character.

Although if all you need to do is apologize in order to make the hauntings stop,

I guess the survivors could just go back for the stone and riches and just apologize to anything supernatural.

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That's what Zed said, yes, but it's Benji we see who is seeing that.

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"Ben -- the doc. filmmaker/camera man -- was killed by the leader of the "chanting cult" (as I like to call them). You saw her briefly outside the nightclub. So, she either died and came back to seek revenge on Ben or she was a demon who didn't like documentary film makers. "

Yeah. It's clear to me that the creepy lady was Ben's haunting, we just don't get to know the facts behind.... you can notice we always see her throught his point of view

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The repent premise was kinda good. yea

After seeing the Movie , to get your hand om philosophers stone you had to .
Risk the 'dangerous path'
Go down a sewer
Solve a Egyptian stone puzzle
Find a bright tunnel under a templar knights tomb
Solve a Sun puzzle in treasure chamber
*stone aquired* and worked on girls hand..

To return, orientate the same back but by going do, not up.

As it seemed it was mere a portion of Hell in terms of rectify. Which means ' to correct
by removing errors' either you apologized for your misstakes or was forgiven by whoever
you brought harm to.

The charm of this tale is that we don't know what or how to get philaophers stone.
It seems it had more secrets, as it could one be used once. Then someone acquired its healing powers
if they return it in the 'below' world. Could this be a symbol that Hell acquired it powers from the above world?

Do you think Scarlett became immortal and gained healing powers after this trip?

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I thought that each character who appeared in hell -- other then the main explorers -- was the spirit of someone who an explorer had "wronged" or felt guilty about.

Yes I agree completely. In another thread people ask "who was the girl? who is this/that?!?" but I said the same, the people seen were specific to the past of each explorer. The guy in the car only killed Pap because he was specific to the guilt of Pap. Only Scarlett saw her father, only Benjy saw the girl, only George saw his brother.

Most of the characters die before we learn who some of those people really ARE, beyond people from their guilty conscience.

George could have been killed by his younger brother who drown, although it didn't sound like it was really George's fault.

With this part of your post, however, I think you are off. I think they are not haunted necessarily by people they have harmed or wronged, but by people who represent what they feel the most guilty about, or in their own minds THEY believe they have harmed. Scarlett and George of course did not hurt their respective family members, but in their own minds they feel it was their fault.

The old "they would have lived if I had done things differently, this is my fault" kind of thinking. So they were not being haunted by the actual spirits, but they were only being haunted by their own guilty conscience.

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Pretty sure everyone saw the phone ringing, the piano, the burning car, and I know they saw the cult (Pap mentioned that there were weird people in the catacombs as they passed by). And that guy that attacked Souxie: everybody saw him.

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I never really questioned it. They were growing closer to hell, so I assumed these guys were either the gate guardians, or demons. It wasn't hard to imagine finding demons close to the entrance into hell.




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Death, the Grimm Reaper, and the others that appear point to there being more than one.

Likewise, "for we are many"




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I think they represent what you want them to represent; so that part really is left to your imagination.

When I saw that character with the pointed hat my first thought was "Thats a damn witch, one of the many stereotypical brides of my old buddy Satan!"

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Unless I have expertise on the subject, and see it for what it is.

Death enthroned in the Kingdom of Darkness, the chair is the throne. The Reaper is Death, and Death is everywhere.

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Kim Kardashian without a. makeup and b. her fake butt. :P

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