Actually, he comes off as a pathetic emo goth to a lot of people, not an incel. Honestly, his character was as badly written and developed as Rey's. Sadly, the emo goth thing blinded a lot of teen girls to his faults when TFA first came out. [It's possible there are real emo goth guys out there that could have done a better job at the part than Adam Driver]. It was actually disturbing to see him and Rey in fanart, being romantic. The two were enemies, and while it might have been romantic for her to bring him back to the light side through love, that wasn't gonna work in these shitty, feminazi, woke trash films. I feel really sad for the teenage girls stupid enough to fall for this guy. He had about as much fear clout as a bad guy as your average Saturday Morning Cartoon villain.
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