Sad that Fast & Furious is more popular than Star Wars now
End of the world
shareCast Vin Diesel as the Emperor's new proxy clone!
After all, no one's ever really gone.
I like where you're going with this.
Don't stop at Vin , get The Rock and Kevin Hart as grown up baby Yoda
shareVin Diesel IS already the baby Yoda of the Furious franchise - He has the cute little bald fat baby face with dopey eyes, can barely speak, yet radiates a calm, zen-like spirit to all around him whilst never endingly preaching about the values of "family".
shareNot really. Hobbs & Shaw and Fate Of The Furious aka Fast & Furious 8 didn't do so well in the U.S. Well, compared to the previous Fast & Furious movies. The rest of the world is pretty much keeping the movies going. Looks like it might be a good idea to have 10 be the end of the series/franchise and not do anymore. The plan is to go to 10, see where things stand, and decide if they want to end it or keep going. But if the U.S. doesn't care about the movies (I feel like I'm the only American that gives a crap about these movies now and will watch them), then there is no real point in making them. I think the U.S. is the main target audience for these movies, but if they have to rely heavily on the rest of the world to get these movies to make money, then there is no real point in making them anymore. I did notice that when I saw 8 and Hobbs & Shaw in theaters on opening day/night, the theater/auditorium wasn't sold out or completely full. 6 was the last one that sold out in the movie theater in my town. Heck, there wasn't enough seats for the showing I was at. People had to sit in the aisles and stuff. Pretty sure people were sneaking in and stuff/buying tickets for one movie but going to Fast & Furious 6. Furious 7 I'd say was about 75-85% full opening day. 8 was about 40-50% full opening day, and then Hobbs & Shaw was about 30-35% full opening day. I thought it was just my theater/town or the time of the showing i went to (I did one of the late showings for each), but box office is showing they aren't doing that hot in the U.S and all the box office success is coming from the rest of the world. So I'd say Star Wars is still bigger than Fast & Furious. Fast & Furious is dying, and Universal needs to stick with 10 being the last movie. They should end it before they start flopping in the U.S.
shareNice story re your local F&F experience but the box office figures suggest the franchise is doing just fine:-
https://m.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Fast-and-the-Furious
Why would they stop making them just because of US box office figures when the figures show they are increasingly less reliant on that market? 🤔
Yes...its not like they are brain-dead crap movies or anything.
Seriously, Disney Star Wars films are masterworks in comparison.
From what I've read re TROS's storyline that sounds hard to believe!
But seriously, they're all brain dead crap. F&F, Star Wars, MCU, etc. That's not the point though - Question is, are they fun and engaging?
Yes...TROS was quite fun and engaging, imho.
shareBringing back Palpatine with no coherent reason given, him announcing his plans to invade the galaxy, giving a 16 hour deadline, "I am all the sith/and I am all the jedi", the multiple mcguffin search, the infinity fleet of Death Star cannon armed star destroyers buried under the ice, "they fly now?, they fly now?, They fly now!", the force becoming superhero god like powers, Rey just taking the Skywalker name, the complete and incoherent mess in between films ending up causing retcon of both the OT and the ST films of each other simultaneously (I mean seriously Fast and Furious films keep better continuity than this)...
I am sorry you really have to turn your brain off to find any enjoyment in these films. 100% visual fodder and 0% character or story value.
People like you are the reason we no longer have high-quality movies anymore.
Nothing wrong with liking something "dumb" and fun. I enjoy stuff like Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction, and I watch a lot of nominated and possibly award winning movies during awards season, although I don't watch the actual awards shows anymore because of how political they are now with them just wanting to talk about their political views than celebrate movies or whatever the award show is giving awards to, but I also enjoy stuff like Fast & Furious or the Fallen movies with Gerard Butler. Sometimes when I need a break from all these Oscar nominated/winning movies, Fast & Furious are good movies to turn to when I need a break. And I just like that they are self-aware and know what they are and stuff. Well, except those times Vin Diesel said Fast & Furious 7 and 8 were Oscar worthy, although when comparing Fast & Furious 8 to The Last Jedi, The Last Jedi makes Fast & Furious 8 seem Oscar worthy, especially since FF8 knew how to take risks with the narrative. The Last Jedi risks were just complete crap and stupid. And this is coming from someone who is more of a Star Wars person than Fast & Furious. I want Star Wars to take risks, but they did it in all the wrong ways in The Last Jedi. Oh and then I rewatched TLJ again. Not a dang thing happens in the first 45 minutes. Rey's "training" hadn't started. A lot happened though in the first 45 minutes of FF8. FF8 gets better the more I watch it. TLJ just gets worse the more I watch it.
shareTrue, people enjoy the fast and furious and transformer series for Dumb and fun and I take no issue with it because everyone understands that they are Dumb fun. The problem with the Sequel trilogy is it turned Star Wars which was never just Dumb fun into just that. It is completely mindless visuals now about on par with Fast and Furious (worse IMO). That is just tragic for those that like the deeper mythos and great depth of characters/plot that the originals had. It is over now. We do have to move on. it is not good for those like me to keep coming back and discussing it. It is just not for us anymore. It is for Fast and Furious fans now (or similar).
I just wish the Disney fans would just freaking admit that it is dumb fun. They try claiming they are masterpieces and the best films since the Empire (or in extreme cases say it is better than ANH). This I find insane, asinine and even offensive to the intellect. I have a hard time letting it go when the disney fans just don't admit it is dumb fun on par with Fast and Furious. I would probably have an easier time letting go if they just admitted it. But they are clinging to this insane delusion that TFA is somehow better than ANH when it is a weaker carbon copy. It is just insanely frustrating.
I don't trust that chart. The reports I've read are WAY different. They aren't doing well in the U.S. I even remember reading reports saying that it was all up to the rest of the world to make Fate Of The Furious money because it wasn't doing that well in the U.S and was barely a success.
shareNot really.Both franchises have run out of steam.Fast and furious has devolved into a cartoon with over the top stunts and I've lost interest in Star wars the next generation.
shareFast & Furious has evolved into this generation's Bond films.
I'm currently working my way back through the series to the CU's start point in F&F5. The FF6 scene where Vin Diesel leaps from his car roof across a void between to catch his missus mid-air and the FF7 scene where she drift corners the edge of a cliff to save (a leaping from a descending bus) Paul Walker are both phenomenal. They are prime Roger Moore Era proper get out of your seat laughing and applauding moments of cinema magic.
The advantage the F&F movies have over SW, is that their fans for the most part all want the same things from their movies. We know what we want from the F&F, and they know what we want, so they make movies based on that. Everyone knows what they're going to get when to go see one of their movies, and we all walk away satisfied.
shareNot really. Everyone wants more street racing, but they keep making them more action-y and upping how ridiculous they can get. Well, I like that they are more action-y. Plus since they started becoming more action-y, the critics have been enjoying them overall. But a lot of fans are sick of the direction they went in and want more street racing. There is only like one minor street race in the movies now, although I don't remember that much racing in the first movie. Just that opening race. The rest of the movie I wouldn't call those races.
shareMaybe it's common sense that many more men and boys would prefer high-speed motor racing in flash expensive cars, as opposed to space wizards with laser swords, pew-pew spaceships and puppets? The latter always seemed more suited to younger children, to be honest.