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Diego Luna confirms Disney writing Star Wars in response to Social Media

posted a year ago by FootOfDavros (8197)
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https://collider.com/star-wars-andor-season-2-cast-filming-details-everything-we-know-disney-plus

"Another tool we have these days through social media. We actually listen to audiences and critics. It’s kind of cool to have an opportunity to go and execute another season having this information. It’s, in a way, a season that will end up representing the audience in a different way. Somehow, the audience is part of this season because the interaction we had served as inspiration.”

It's not "cool" at all, it's a joke to not be confident / comfortable in your own creativity.

Why am I posting this here rather than on the Andor board?

Because this pretty much confirms one of the reasons TLJ was a disaster.

After all the TFA's mystery and drama around who Rey would be related to - what her Jedi lineage would be - this awful film decided to tell us she was in fact a nobody.

And this always seemed ridiculous, given the fact that prior to this Star Wars had always been about a special chosen one or, at least, a destined for greatness Arthurian figure.

This idiotic film attempted to change this to a case of "anyone can be special". And it did this not because of any creative thinking, it did simply as a result of some Disney employees trawling through social media and reading comments like "Why does she have to be related to anyone? Why can't she just be special in her own right?" and deciding they should pander to that.

The problem is that these idiots failed to take comments like that for what they are - i.e. self serving virtue signalling, with nothing really to do with Star Wars, and more to do with these individuals chasing approval.

However, taking these onboard, we land up with the ridiculous storyline in TLJ, which was immediately reversed (after all the negativity around it) in the very next film!

I guess the moral is - Don't let creativity and it's associated risk taking be undone by following unriable skewed analytics.

[–] Martoto (5042) a year ago

What bollocks. Since TLJ came out all I've heard is that TLJ "subverted" what the fans expected and wanted in episode VIII. People slated Johnson because he supposedly went out of his way to do the opposite of what people said they wanted.

The movie never told us Rey was a nobody. Kylo told Rey she was a nobody, for his own purposes.

The Last Jedi was written before The Force Awakens was even released in theaters. How the fuck could Disney employees be reading social media messages from fans asking why the character they don't know about in a film they've not seen yet has to be related to anybody? How the fuck did they even know that Rey was an orphan and her parentage was mystery?

Do you know what's crazy? Star Wars fans who complain about things that never happened based on what bullshit other misinformed fans say online, in spite of the actual facts.

[–] ak47wong (578) a year ago

Since TLJ came out all I've heard is that TLJ "subverted" what the fans expected and wanted in episode VIII.

I agree completely with this. I expected and wanted a good movie and TLJ definitely subverted that.

[–] Martoto (5042) a year ago

Fascinating.

Did you come up with that? That's great. Almost as clever as the perennial "Alternative music... or alternative to music."

Help yourself to a cookie.

[–] FootOfDavros (8197) a year ago

The movie never told us Rey was a nobody. Kylo told Rey she was a nobody, for his own purposes.

LOL. That's hilarious because that's your retconning of TLJ's reveal based upon JJ Abrams' subsequent u-turn in the next film.

And TLJ didn't even begin filming until after TFA was released. It's kind of laughable (also in bold for effect) that you'd believe they shot based upon a script locked down before that despite the OP spelling out "the actual facts" of how Disney works.

How the fuck could Disney employees be reading social media messages from fans asking why the character they don't know about in a film they've not seen yet has to be related to anybody?

This is also somewhat idiotic, given that people were speculating as to who Rey was from the moment the very first TFA teaser trailer dropped...

[–] Martoto (5042) a year ago

It's not a retcon. It's literally what happened in the movie. But it is typical of some of the tards who comment on Star Wars who don't understand motivations and ambiguity. If it were up to you dunces Vader would never have been Luke's father.

And TLJ didn't even begin filming until after TFA was released. It's kind of laughable (also in bold for effect) that you'd believe they shot based upon a script locked down before that despite the OP spelling out "the actual facts" of how Disney works.

TLJ started production before TFA was released. And the script was being written while TFA was being filmed. The script and Rey's parentage were NOT rewritten during TLJ's production to honour a couple of comments on social media that didn't exist at that time. That's just a massive whopping fib your telling to yourself because it's the only way that your rambling butthurt theory could possibly work. "Actual facts" your arse.

Who cares if people speculate about things? What does that prove? The only thing that's being proven here is that insecure nerd poopbutts are constantly terrified that things are being taken away from them or changed for the worst at the request of imaginary people online who you don't like.

[–] FootOfDavros (8197) a year ago

LOL. Ambiguity in a film by Rian Johnson featuring crank calls to the bridge and steam iron guising as ships Yeah sure...

...Rey's parentage were NOT rewritten during TLJ's production to honour a couple of comments on social media that didn't exist at that time...

Cool. Prove that with "actual facts" not pulled out of your arse... (and btw social media very much did exist in 2014/15 FFS 😂)

And as to the quoted "actual facts" are you literally disputing the validity of Diego Luna's comments re how Disney works in the OP? Unbelievable...

Will you be talking about strawmen again soon? Haha 😆

[–] Martoto (5042) a year ago

Prove what with actual facts? That you are speculating how things must have went down based on your own butt's hurt feelings?

Diego Luna is acknowledging that you get feedback on your work through social media. (If you think that's unique to Andor or Star Wars or Disney then you're even dumber than I thought) Nowhere does he say that Disney employees change stories and change characters based on suggestions from randos on social media or anything like that. In live theatre, actors respond to the audience's reaction or lack of it. That doesn't mean they rewrite the story or the character. Social media is the closest thing that TV/Film has to that.

The big complaint of TLJ was that it subverted what "everyone" expected to happen next, and which was stated on social media. Now you're saying that TLJ was written to conform to what social media demanded. If you'd said that in 2017, the folk who hated TLJ would be laughing at you.

Try another one sad-sack.

[–] FootOfDavros (8197) a year ago

Haha classic Martoto - Prove exactly what I quoted you saying with "actual facts", not speculation...

And thus we are in the same territory you always land up in when you come in shooting your mouth off half baked on whatever thread.

There is zero percent chance you will come back with any actual evidence around the re-rewrites and simply go down your usual route of deflection and the inevitable "strawman" comment 😂.

It's funny because without being able to do so, you are proving yourself to be doing nothing further than "speculating how things must have went down (sic)". Of course, no doubt that you are lacking in the self awareness required to fully appreciate the irony of that...

So I have to ask:- Why do you even bother?

Anyway, that's rhetorical. I don't care - nothing further from me here as I know it will simply be another back and forth of me asking for your actual evidence and you deflecting and supplying absolutely nothing...

Good day to you Sir 👍

[–] Martoto (5042) a year ago

Why would I provide evidence about your imaginary rewrites?

"I don't care"

Give up then. Oh, you already have.

[–] mitzibishi (1857) a month ago

Shame they refused to take cries from social media into consideration for the next few Star Wars projects.

Cries from social media like "make Star Wars good"

They then went on to the exact opposite, to wholly subvert our expectations and make it not bad, but terrible, woeful. The hopes were there to make Star Wars good because it was taken from George who just sat on it and the biggest entertainment company of all time, with unlimited resources and access to talent bought it to then go on and made Star Wars.........continue to suck.

But not only that, suck harder than George Lucas prequels where an old stubborn man wanted to play with his new green screen and CGI toys coupled with a half-baked script.

Doesn't sound much different to now.

Except.........................old George didn't try to paint everybody as racists for not paying to see his garbage, turn the blame around on to the fans instead of facing his mistakes, and attack the people who kept the franchise alive through the years with no film content. He put his 3rd film out and walked away.

In comparison, Disney attacked, insisted on releasing one or more projects per year until each BOMBED, attacked fans, attacked regular people for not paying to see this tripe and will continue to double down, attacking the fans for Disney's continuously BOMBING Star Wars projects.

Star Wars is DEAD.

Disney killed it with TRIPE.

It's not racism or sexism. The regular people decline to watch Star Wars.

That is your answer to why Star Wars has declined.

[–] Martoto (5042) 25 days ago

No cunt asked you.

[–] mitzibishi (1857) 24 days ago

Who are you? Ronnie Pickering?

[–] MiyagiDoMAGA (421) 23 days ago

How about that election hey?

[–] moviechatterer (15697) a year ago

totally agree on not listening to rabid star wars fans. They will never be happy.

disagree about wether the character needs to be "the chosen one" though

[–] TandyMan (11115) a year ago

The Force Awakens.

The new team is assembled and does whatever, who cares.

The old team shows up, holy shit, Han Solo is killed.

The new kids pick up the pieces and save the day.

None of this was hard.