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Snoke is Gallius Rax.

posted 8 years ago by AlexDuran
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Snoke is actually Gallius Rax. Makes sense. Snoke mentioned he was around to see the rise of the empire, so was Rax. It was said Snoke was once very handsome, Rax was considered so.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/star-wars-canon-extended/images/f/f9/Rax.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160715082032

This was put out there a while ago, but not a lot of people talk about it, mainly because Rax isn't well known to the common Star Wars fan. But;

Rax is an orphan living on Jakku during the time of the Galactic Republic and he is befriended by Sheev Palpatine who appears to be doing Sithy things on the planet.

Gallius has Force Sensitivity and is actually able to resist the power of Palpatine, which of course makes him very valuable to the future Emperor.

Rax becomes a puppet master and special advisor to the Emperor. He’s the one pulling the strings behind the scenes.

When Rae Sloane looks at him, it’s like she’s looking at a hologram.

He’s described as being very pale and his eyes as black holes.

He believes it’s very important for the Empire to recruit children and indoctrinate them at a young age. This is exactly what the First Order does as opposed to a clone army in The Force Awakens.

By the end of the book Life Debt he’s calling himself Emperor Rax.

I believe there's more. Sidious was looking for something dark side related in Jakku it's known. During the final battle there Rax most likely journeyed down to whatever was buried beneath the surface and may have merged with the slumbering entity.

*Also; they stated Snoke was someone you haven't seen before. We haven't seen Rax onscreen anywhere before.

Right now I'd say that's the best theory. Fits all the pieces pretty well.

[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

Here's more on him btw;

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gallius_Rax

[–] DennisReynolds 8 years ago

It's certainly possible. However, they'd need to actually explain this stuff in the MOVIES for it to resonate with people. Not many people actually read the books (comparatively).

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[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

It's certainly possible. However, they'd need to actually explain this stuff in the MOVIES for it to resonate with people. Not many people actually read the books (comparatively).

They also said Snoke was not someone you've seen before, so that does fall in line with Rax.

[–] President_Ackbar_Impeached 8 years ago

Agreed.

I don't have any problem with this.

It's just that it would have taken them literally two seconds to come out and say it in the film.

[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

It's just that it would have taken them literally two seconds to come out and say it in the film.

Agreed. As simple as; an imperial officer was researching ancient dark side artifacts. During the battle of Jakku he awakens a dark force being and merged with it. Retreated to unknown space and built the First Order. Done.

[–] Foot_of_Davros 8 years ago

It has been rumoured that Snoke is actually a character known as "The Midi-chlorian Count".

A mysterious figure obsessed with the ways of the force, who has devised a way to extract Midi-chlorians from force sensitive creatures, leaving them dead, but enhancing his own midi-chlorian count to absurd levels.

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[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

It has been rumoured that Snoke is actually a character known as "The Midi-chlorian Count".

There's just no way the word Midi-chlorian is coming back. No way.

[–] The Shrike 8 years ago

It's still part of canon unfortunately, but I would be surprised if they ever brought it up again. From now on it will probably only be referred to as the force, and left at that. No further explanation required.

[–] FootOfDavros (8241) 2 years ago

A mysterious figure obsessed with the ways of the force, who has devised a way to extract Midi-chlorians from force sensitive creatures, leaving them dead, but enhancing his own midi-chlorian count to absurd levels.

Wrong!

That was actually Moff Gideon...

[–] roosterq 8 years ago

The problem you run into with having Snoke being a renamed character from a previous medium is you still have to go back and retell the back story to the movie fans, since only about 1% - 5% of the fan base read the books. You either have an random bad guy with not real place in the story, or the most hard core fans have to rehear the same old story they already read. Then you have to explain why bother changing the characters name, in the first place.

The real shoker is going to be when they fianlly show everyone who Snoke really is. He is none other than, Snoke. Not Plagueis, Palpatine, Rax, Anakin , or a time traveling Luke's darker alternate self.

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[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

The problem you run into with having Snoke being a renamed character from a previous medium is you still have to go back and retell the back story to the movie fans, since only about 1% - 5% of the fan base read the books. You either have an random bad guy with not real place in the story, or the most hard core fans have to rehear the same old story they already read. Then you have to explain why bother changing the characters name, in the first place.

The real shoker is going to be when they fianlly show everyone who Snoke really is. He is none other than, Snoke. Not Plagueis, Palpatine, Rax, Anakin , or a time traveling Luke's darker alternate self.

Yeah, but anyone new is going to require explanation. And they said this person is new. His explanation is easy in the films; was a personal henchman for Palpatine and was there for the battle of Jakku. Before they destroyed the research site he went into the tomb/whatever and released the dark side being. Being a force sensitive himself the entity bonded with him. His story for the films, done.

Now, if you want to know all his backstory, you can go back and read Life Debt. They did just this for Rogue One with Catalyst.

[–] millsey72 (10365) 7 days ago

No, the real shocker instead was Palpatine made Snoke

[–] chris-r78 8 years ago

The problem with this theory, and all other theories that pull something out of some companion material, is that it won't work in a film context.

99% of the people who like Star Wars limit themselves to the films alone. That constitutes the known Star Wars universe, and it's essentially all that counts. If the clues to Snoke's identity are buried there, most people will just regard it is as the introduction of a completely new character. And Snoke might be that, but then the mystery about who he is has been eliminated. And if the writers have been tasked with creating a new supervillain with no connection to the past stories, then I highly doubt they take it from some novel that includes an entire backstory totally unrelated to anything shown in the films. It just doesn't make sense.

[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

99% of the people who like Star Wars limit themselves to the films alone. That constitutes the known Star Wars universe, and it's essentially all that counts. If the clues to Snoke's identity are buried there, most people will just regard it is as the introduction of a completely new character. And Snoke might be that, but then the mystery about who he is has been eliminated. And if the writers have been tasked with creating a new supervillain with no connection to the past stories, then I highly doubt they take it from some novel that includes an entire backstory totally unrelated to anything shown in the films. It just doesn't make sense.

It's one of those things where if you want to learn more about a character they provide it to you in the extended universe. If you don't, the backstory isn't integral to the current story. They've done this quite a bit, this time they're setting up that expanded story beforehand. So basically, Gallius Rax is really a new character, what he was doing before he discovered/became Snoke isn't integral to the plot, but if you want you learn about about it in Life Deft. Same as what Leia was doing with the Resistance before TFA, you can learn about in Bloodlines.

If you don't want to learn the backstory to Rax then he's just an imperial officer type that was assigned artifact research and found Snoke/the tomb/whatever on Jakku. The story can start from there.

[–] Winters_Suicide 8 years ago

Quick question from someone who hasn't caught up to the post-ROTJ canon:

Someone posted on here that the novels indicate Snoke is 100s of years old. Is that true or not?

[–] AlexDuran 8 years ago

Someone posted on here that the novels indicate Snoke is 100s of years old. Is that true or not?

So far the only thing confirmed is that Snoke saw the rise of the Empire. That's roughly fifty years before TFA.