According to the trailer, Maria Altmann's story is about right vs wrong, about the sentimental value of a family painting, and about a triumph of small people against the big bag Austrian government and the Nazis.
In truth, it's about strong-arming the legal system in order to remove paintings from a public museum -- where they were supposed to go, by the owner's will -- into the private collection of an aristocrat, where they were promptly sold for hundreds of millions of dollars, ensuring Altmann's children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will continue to live like aristocrats well into the future, with estates and servants and private jets and yachts.
You'd think, after recovering these long-lost artworks that were "priceless" to her family, that Altmann's Gustav Klimts would be hanging in a family home, where her family could look up at them and remember their relatives. Instead, Altmann won the case, then turned around almost immediately sold the paintings -- for a price between $30 million and $135 million for each individual painting.
And they make a movie to celebrate that? Will the movie be honest about what Altmann did with the paintings and how quickly she sold them? Will the movie admit that several prominent Jewish voices condemned Altmann's crusade because it reinforced the worst Jewish stereotypes? And will the movie show be honest with the audience about how the original owner's will dictated that the paintings be put in a museum, NOT in the private collection of a woman so she could sell them?
To be clear, none of this is to excuse the horrific things the Nazis did, but let's have some perspective here -- millions of people lost parents, siblings, children and friends to the Nazis, and Altmann's family lost a few valuables. Maybe the message should have been gratitude for escaping the Holocaust with her life, instead of this life-long crusade to sell paintings so she could continue living above everyone else as an aristocrat.
From a legal point of view, Maria Altmann's claim had validity though I don't believe that Austria should have made it any easier for her to get the paintings. It is still very suspicious that she only sought after the paintings after she had found out that she still had a claim to these paintings. During the course of the war, a lot of things had changed. It is unfortunate, but life goes on. Ferdinand Bloch-Bauer did have a legitimate claim to the paintings, after all, he was Adele's husband. Maria's only claim was that she was the closest living relative to him. Gee, I'd love to know what national treasures I am entitled to, just because my 3 x great-grand uncle's cousins' half-sister owned them! I agree that the law is the law but this is one of those cases where it was really rather grey, and you have to ask, who benefits from this restitution?
Maria Altmann's anger and entitlement is very off-putting, especially when you contrast it with the sale of these paintings. Her family gained almost half a BILLION dollars from this sale. You could argue, that is how she got her real justice in the form of monetary gain. And yes, I do care what she does with the money. Calling me a communist does nothing for your argument. The way she got those paintings back was really a cheap trick, a legal loophole. She vengefully offered nothing to the Austrian government, without whom, would not have protected the paintings, or keep them in the public eye as a national symbol of Austrian culture and inspiration. I am not defending the Austrian government, they could have handled this much better. But they are not the Nazi regime. They're past that. At least they did not try to sell the paintings to some Russian Gas Baron in order to line the pockets of the government.
Someone got their justice, but very few people benefited from that. I actually do not have much sympathy for rich families that lost some of their possessions during the war, yet remained wealthy throughout the war, and still have the nerve to claim their art. I am not talking about the Altmann family in this case, but there are many such families that have done so. It is a slap in the face to people who had little to begin with, and still lost everything. You never see people talk about how Germany lost Konigsberg in the war from the Russians, now called Kaliningrad. People were uprooted from their ancestral homes and forced to live elsewhere. There is still anguish about that, yet somehow people have moved on.
And there are a lot of instances where law goes to hell because of war, and anything that happened before the war cannot really be accounted for afterwards. In the case of Maria Altmann, she got lucky because Austria was not bombed to pieces or split up into 2 different countries. I still believe she showed a complete lack of appreciation for Austria, the country that allowed her family to prosper for generations, and to give rise to artists such as Klimt without whom she would not be where she was. Yes, the Anschluss was unfortunate, but not all of Austria was with the Anschluss and the Anschluss did not affect all of Austria. It is unfortunate that Maria had to go through what she did, and I doubt she would ever call herself an Austrian again after the war, but she could have done way more right things in the way of Austria, Jews, and recovering from the Holocaust.
cooler has no facts so cooler just keeps on spouting irrelevant nonsense. Ferdinand OWNED the paintings. He left them in his WILL to his closest family. This in not "grey". This is not a "loophole". The case was about restitution of art which means returning art to their rightful owners. Austria fought this tooth and nail. As for protecting the stolen art, if I steal your car and keep it in my garage, should I be rewarded for lying, cheating and stealing? The Belvedere did sell one of the Klimt paintings (to a NAZI!)that Ferdinand had donated in PERPETUITY. Maria's "entitlement"? This was an 85 year-old who was still working! A woman who had a chance to escape Austria sooner in 1938, but would not leave her husband behind in Dachau concentration camp. cooler writes, "I still believe she showed a complete lack of appreciation for Austria" This has to be one of the most idiotic statements ever. It is so bizarre it borders on parody. The newlyweds left Austria with the clothes on their back, her husband with a tattoo and shaved head. "She got lucky..." Incredibly offensive, as in "what's a few million murders between friends". The shame does not belong to Maria who never hurt anyone. She just wanted her paintings back. Why the hate??
It doesn't help to argue with idiots. As someone once said, they will only drag you down to their level and then try to beat you with experience.
I figured the OP was a troll from the very beginning. I figure that anyone who takes the point of view that Nazis (or their sympathizers) have the moral high ground is suspect.
It is still very suspicious that she only sought after the paintings after she had found out that she still had a claim to these paintings.
??? Because she has every reason to believe that seeking the paintings with no legal right would have yielded results? They fought her for the better part of a decade when she had airtight legal ownership of the works, she would have been utterly foolish to seek after the paintings when she didn't know she had any claim to them.
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.
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Materials stolen by the Nazis do not belong to any nation's government whose hands they happen to land in. Period. Maria Altmann could have lit the portrait on fire or sold it for $5 of meth and she would still have been 100% in the right, and Austria would still have been 100% in the wrong.
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.
They weren't aristocrats, they were merchant class. They did well for themselves, were socially popular and got a family friend to paint a picture of their relative... twice. He happened to be Klimpt. I think he's *beep* but thats just me, i like old masters.
They were her family's property.... regardless of whether you think that the people should see them in public gallery it makes no difference. I have no right to come into your home, take your photos off your phone and put them up in gallery, because i think the public will find them interesting.
These were property stolen by an evil regime, property that was paid for, and would only have existed had the relative commissioned a portrait from a family friend
She wanted her paintings back, but she clearly did not want them as much if she was willing to part with them so soon. You are missing the point my friend, is that why put up such a big fuss over something she would give up rather quickly, though the large sum made it very easy for her. I am sure if the Nazis were to buy the paintings from her family, or if her family got the paintings back right after and the Austrian government wanted to buy it from them, I am sure they wouldn't have given it a second thought. Yes, we can talk about the law, justice, idealism, dignity all day but when it comes down to money, that's where we see true character come out. You can call me a troll, or not understanding Maria's point of view, but try looking it from another perspective for once. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll or trying to rile you up. I am just surprised how easily swooned most people are by this story when it is not as shiny as it appears to be.
Yes, cooler, what could possibly go wrong with a woman over 90 keeping Klimt paintings in her L.A. bungalow? Maria wanted the paintings on public display in the country that gave her freedom rather than the country that murdered her family and friends. I don't think you are a troll, just misinformed. What is so terrible about someone wanting back possessions which were stolen from them? You refuse to answer the question: Someone steals your car, changes the plates and says it is theirs. Do you make a "big fuss" to get your car back? Yes or no? Yes, the Austrian government had the chance to settle the case and keep the paintings in Austria, but chose to fight tooth and nail for almost a decade costing tens of millions of dollars. You know nothing about this woman who wanted justice. Your statement that Maria didn't "appreciate" Austria has to be one of the most imbecilic comments I have ever read. You may have heard of the Holocaust. Why would the Nazis buy the paintings when they could just steal and murder millions? You are hung up on money. It is important to talk about LAW, JUSTICE, IDEALISM, DIGNITY, words that are just words to you without any understanding of their meaning.
Maria wanted the paintings on public display in the country that gave her freedom rather than the country that murdered her family and friends.
Indeed. Not only did the US give her the life that Austria denied her, but the US also gave her the right to sue for her paintings, something else the Austrian government fought her on. There's really no logical reason to think the paintings should have stayed in Austria.
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Maria wanted the paintings on public display in the country that gave her freedom
She was so grateful to the US that she sold the painting for the insignificant price of 135 million US$. If that's not a show of gratitude, I don't know what is.
...and your point is???? The U.S. didn't pay for the painting, a very rich man did and he promised to put the painting on public display. Maria even offered to donate the other Adele painting to the same gallery, but the 5 heirs could not agree on this. Does offering to donate a $100+ million painting sound "greedy" to you? Funny how all these critics likely haven't given more than a few thousand a year to charity, if that. Hint: sarcasm only works when you have a point.
Your main issue the whole thread seems to revolve around the fact that she sold the paintings and did "God knows what" with the money. So what? She can do whatever the heck she wants to do with the paintings. It's her property, as already proven by facts previously stated not only in this thread, but in proper references. If my Ferrari was stolen by you, and I went through court proceedings to get my car back, and in the end I decide to sell my car right away, is that wrong? It's the owner's business on what she chooses to do with the property. Stop making a big deal out of that opinion and step back to look at the rest of the objective facts.
Wow .. talk about completely missing the point of her actions - it wasn't about the money, it was about restitution, the righting of a wrong. She even offered to leave the painting where it was in exchange for a letter of apology and acknowledgement, but even this was too much for them.