They are guilty


Read Ann Coulters story on this. She proves they were guilty.

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There seems to be a lot of people who take the point of view that these boys confessed and it doesn't matter how it happened, nonetheless they confessed so they are guilty. Fine I will concede that to you a confession equals guilty.

But I must state my case:

How do you explain the fact that none of the boys confessions can accurately depicted what happen, when it happened, or even where it happened? Seems to make sense to me if they truly are guilty of the crime they would know at least where it was.

Also how do you explain that these five boys accused of committed this crime were able to leave no trace of evidence? No blood, no hair, no semen, no skin, no clothing, nothing! It would be literally impossible to take part in a crime of this nature and not leave some trace of evidence.

What about the fact that there was a trail where the assailant dragged the victim to where she was later found, and the trail was only 18 inches wide? Unless this was one of them rare orderly rapes where the assailants lineup single file this supports the fact that all five or more people were presents at the time the crime took place.

Lastly what about the fact that a man testified and pleaded guilty to this crime 13 years later knowing details of the case that even the closes investigators would have a hard time coming up with. He was able to explain the way in which he raped her, exactly what cloths she was wearing, why her keys were not found near her body, that she had a walk man with her, and how he removed the victims shoes.

Were these five boys perfect angels? No There were the verbal and physical harassments that they either took part in or witnessed happen, but that's beside the point. The argument isn't about if they are guilty of those things, its about are they guilty of this crime against this woman. (I think some people are thinking that even if they didn't committed the rape they still committed the other acts that night, but those were crimes that would of had short sentences not the 7-13 years they ended up serving for a crime they did not commit)

Just a extra throw in for me. Is that the only truly ridiculous part of the film for me was that the people who investigated the police department 13 years later was *surprise* the POLICE DEPARTMENT! You think there might be a bit of a conflict of interest there. If your someone who still believes these boys are guilty and are questioning there actions and words you should at least question the actions and motives of the NYPD and the DA's convicting and prosecuting these boys to be truly fair. Why did they rush to charge and convict so quickly, why didn't the fact that there was no DNA found at the scene that matched the boy's wave any red flags for the authorities? And most importantly what did the police and attorneys stand to gain by convicting these boys?

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And this is how you shut the argument down. Well done.

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They are still Guilty now i guess you think O.J. didn't do it?

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the interrogation notes from 1989 with kharey wise twice reference her walkman being stolen. the police had no possible way of knowing she ever had a walkman, (the woman was in a coma and nearly dead at the time) and wise could only know if he had been present at the attack. matias reyes did not confirm that he had stolen her walkman for another 13 years.
absence of their semen at the scene is not proof of their innocence. they admit to beating several other people in the park that night, and none of those victims had the suspect's DNA on them either. wise confessed to a friend who visited him in jail that he hadn't raped the woman himself, he only held down her legs.
from the very beginning the police knew that they didn't have every single person who participated in the attacks in custody and likely never would. matias's confession that he acted alone could easily be a lie. this is a sociopath who raped his own mother and was already serving a life sentence. he had nothing to lose and at the time of his confession he was incarcerated with kharey wise who easily could have bribed him or coerced him into taking full credit for the attack.

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Kharey Wise also said "Rudy" took the walkman and played with her t*ts... I wonder why he wasn't arrested.

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Zimmerman needs to move to new York.

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Ann Coulter? Seriously?

That doesn't even warrant these words I'm typing.

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Oh you poor fella, just like your little hero you keep changing the topic. Coulters rant actually brushes off DNA evidence conducted in 2002 (not 1989), connecting DNA found in this half dead woman belonged to Reyes who confessed in 2002...completely ignoring the fact no physical evidence (the hair found on one of the boys didn't belong to the victim) connected these teens to the victim.

The only evidence was these boys confessing after a 30 hour interrogation were they were cops said they already had the evidence (lie) and their buddies had admitted they did it (lie) and if they just confessed they'd get off easy (lie).

Have you ever read the confessions? Does it not streak you at all that strange that none of the five confessions match?

You believe her "proof", which is based on hearsay, over science based evidence?

I really hope you're a troll because if not I just feel sorry for you.

PS - I hope they use that 40 million to buy a bigger nicer house right next to Coulters.

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You believe her "proof", which is based on hearsay, over science based evidence?


Moesiakslak, she probably made up these so called "Witnesses."

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Literally the only evidence against them were their confessions, which were coerced. The crime scene fit more with a single attacker than the group of boys. And the DNA didn't match either. The DNA did match Matthais Reyes, who eventually confessed to the crime. The assault also fit with his MO in previous sexual assaults, including the distinctive way in which he restrained Melli with her own shirt.


Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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