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saw it today.... this isn't going to be a happy read guys.


It hurts me to say this, but I think Terry Gilliam has finally gone and lost me.
I'm not as happy with his latest as most critics are. Actually, that's an understatement. I'm not happy with the film. Period.
Maybe the film needs several viewings to latch on, maybe it isn't as clever as it thinks it is, or maybe I'm just not smart enough for it. But this does not feel like the same man who made Brazil, 12 monkeys or Fear and Loathing. Brazil and 12 monkeys had future visions that were genuinely frightening, because they were feasible, they were cautionary tales.
Zero Theorem's future isn't. It's hokey, its absurd and mostly its just impotent, because its now.
I bet if Gilliam had watched the Lego Movie a couple of weeks ago he might have been a little embarrassed, their universes share more than the odd idea (not a slight at the lego movie, it was very good).

Gilliam's eye is still everywhere though, he can still make a beautiful low budget "idea movie", but this film is basically Brazils little brother. Smaller, less inventive, and thinks it can get by by using the family name. Relying on obtuse storytelling to masquerade his tired ideas.
Gilliam, I think, is finally showing his age. he looks like a man who isn't really bothered about what the future may be, but instead is bitter about what the present has become. Which is fine, in theory, as that has fueled so many great stories... but his jibes are a little too on-the-nose to ignore.
A little originality could have gone a long way.

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But this does not feel like the same man who made Brazil, 12 monkeys or Fear and Loathing.


Yes, it does. Unfortunately, it feels so in the same way that every Tim Burton's films all feel the same now.

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Yes, it does. Unfortunately, it feels so in the same way that every Tim Burton's films all feel the same now


It does, but while at the same time it felt so incredibly dated, the whole thing felt like a student's take on Brazil / 1984. Everything it tries to satirise is done so in a very literal way, more so (and less effective) than something with much less budget like Black Mirror or Tokyo!, which dealt with much more relevant topics in more coherent ways.

I bought this on Blu-ray without reading a single review or watching the trailer, completely based on the fact that it's Gilliam, so I'm enough of a fan to pay for it without needing to be convinced, but I was so disappointed after seeing it.

I was glad when it ended, it was such a mess.

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zero theorem is a rather stupid, nonsensical movie disguised as an unconventional postmodern film

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Very well written OP.. I totally agree.. I was very disappointed...
NOT enjoyable I thought..

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"saw it today.... this isn't going to be a happy read guys."

you understand that you are just a "poster", not a writer for the guardian, right?

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i think it would have been a better film if terry gilliam wrote it instead of some ameteur writer(i mean gilliam wrote brazil and it was amazing). i would have given the film 8 or 9 if the movie was written as well as brazil but it wasnt so it is 5 for me. i wouldnt say gilliam is loosing his touch either because like i said the problems with the movie was mostly the writing.

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Yeah I have liked all of his other movies but I don't know what it was about this movie I just couldn't stay awake and have had no interest to see it again. Maybe it was a long day of work and a late movie, mixed with alcohol made me take a great nap in the theater but I fell asleep 30 minutes in and woke up about 10 minutes before it ended. I liked Brazil, 12 Monkeys, F&L, Monty Python. Maybe I am just too old and my mind is broken.

Now, let's say you and I go toe-to-toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor?

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Yeah, I haven't seen Tideland or the two recent shorts yet, but the last Gilliam film I saw that I wasn't profoundly disappointed with was Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas . . . and it's not going to be very long before that was 20 years ago.

I still love his films visually--he's still one of the best on that end, but it seems to me like his ability to engagingly tell interesting, entertaining stories went out the window for some reason.

From Monty Python and the Holy Grail through Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, he's very easily one of my top 10 directors. His films after that unfortunately wouldn't even put him in my top 500, unless I'm limiting it to visuals. I still keep rooting for him because of how much I love that more or less 25 year run (well, or 30 year run if we include his work on the Monty Python TV series--I'm a huge Monty Python fan), but I approach his films cautiously now.

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