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who here has seen the movie AND read the book?


if so, i'd love to hear your opinions on the movie.

you smell like pine needles and you have a face like sunshine.

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Watching it this weekend so I'll let you know. I will say that via book. (I've only read the first one) I could do without Cassie's narration. Love sick puppy lol

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i'll be waiting for your opinions.
:~)

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I did. I have read both of the books that are out. I saw the movie yesterday and loved it! It's a pretty faithful adaptation (I would say at least 70 percent). I honestly don't get the bad reviews. My only issue with the movie is the following, beware of spoilers.

-They omit most of the bad language from the book. I remember reading the book and remembering a lot of the f bomb being dropped. There really isn't that in the movie although Cassie does drop the f bomb once in the movie (never seen that in a YA movie, but glad they did it).

--In the book, I rememberCassie getting shot. Then she finds out that it is Evan who shot and saved her. They changed it in the movie! In the movie, he shot the person who was about to shoot her and then he saved her. Kinda irked me that they did that, but I think it was so the audience who hadn't read the book, would think better of him

--The last half of the movie is kind of rushed and it ends rather fast. In the movie they don't really make a big deal about Evan blowing up Wright Patt. It leaves it up to the interpretation of the audience whether he is dead or not. I wish Cassie would have been sadder it happened but I suppose it is what it is lol

Those are really my only complaints! I would say this is my second favorite post apocalyptic YA after The Hunger Games. I rated the movie a 7/10. Don't listen to the reviews and see the movie! I hoped this helped :)

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same! i was just wondering if there was any other people who actually cared to see the movie - considering this entire board seems to be 98% hate.

i agree with your complaints, while i do have a couple more to add.

- about your last complaint, the one thing that bugged me was the way the humans lit up green with the helmets. i mean i probably was just annoyed by it because that's not how i pictured it in my head, but other than that it just looked so cheesy/fake.

- the other main thing that i was REALLY looking forward to was the relationship between nugget and ben. now i know that this may not be considered a spoiler, but it's just in case. this relationship was something that really kept me captivated during the book and i was SO bummed that it wasn't in the movie.

ps, that f bomb was a total win for YA movie adaptations. i loved it.

you smell like pine needles and you have a face like sunshine.

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lol You are right about it being cheesy and fake. They could have improved it, but their budget was low I suppose.

And about the second one with Ben and Nugget, I totally agree. There is room for improvement though. So maybe if we get a second movie they can throw in some more scenes.

I can't wait to here news on if we will get a second one or not.

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Follow up question if I may: is Cassie protagonist and narrator in the book? Because that is something I feel was poorly done. There are things that she is a bit too clear about, befitting the narrator but not the protagonist. It would be different if the narration would be past tense as she'd know it in hindsight but that's not the case - it's more like a live reading of her journal entries. I assume this wouldn't bug me if I knew "the details that happened in between", which I probably would had I read the book. However I didn't.

Though I didn't hate the movie I did not find it particularily great either. It is too obvious and kills its suspense by setting up dramatic events in a too predictable way. Again that's something I wouldn't care about had I known what's going to happen all along, had I read the book. Watching the movie the first time and still anticipating the drama is kind of bland though. This is probably an effect of abreviations being made w/o daring to change events. The events need to be explained on short notice, without building up to them. That's my guess anyway.

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I read the book in March last year and I've seen the movie. I liked it. It stayed really close to the book just leaving out parts about Nugget, Zombie, Evan and Ringer, and Teacup.

An interesting development is that I actually didn't like Evan in the book but in the movie I want him and Cassie to be together. I believed the acting and I knew what was coming.

I wanted to shout at the screen when Liev Schrievers character comes on screen and so on but yes I did like this movie I think it does have that YA feel and I don't meet to offend if you loved Twilight but I think I liked this movie better than that one.

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i'm not a twilight fan so don't worry. šŸ˜›

their relationship is very neutral to me. i think i preferred the book's version better, but i'm also open to a different point of view. i think i was just always more of a ben parrish fan - mostly because of the way he cares for sammy.

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I haven't read the books, but for me the appearance of Liev Schreiber gave away the supposed "twist" in the movie fairly early. Since when had Liev ever played a good or even "normal" guy? ī€¹

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Since when had Liev ever played a good or even "normal" guy?




How about the 2006 version of The Omen.

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Since when had Liev ever played a good or even "normal" guy?


scream, right?

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Wait, Cotton Weary was precisely one of those characters I had in mind when I made my comment. You can't say he was completely bad, but he was not a nice guy either and certainly not "normal". He was kind of sleazy and certainly looked threatening until the end of the second film. Don't forget he was the one that had sex with Sidney's mother and that was the incident that sparked off the long series of murders. Cotton instead wanted to make himself a celebrity out of it. At the end of Scream 2, he looked undecided between shooting Sidney or the killer, until Sidney made a deal with him.

If you like, you could argue that Victor Creed was not completely bad either - there were reasons for what he did. Liev's character in Salt was definitely a traitor though.

What I meant was that Liev was known for playing these shady and complex characters. In this film, the colonel could have been played by any unknown actor if his purpose was just to transport the children to safety. That he was instead played by Liev, together with the knowledge that aliens had taken over the minds of some humans, to me at least strongly suggested that something was up and that the army base was not really what it was supposed to be.

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how about sphere

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While this movie is mostly faithful, I have to say that they took out the two best parts of the book: The "Wonderland scenes, and Evan uploading himself into Cassie.

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if only they could've made the movie like 30 minutes longer...

you smell like pine needles and you have a face like sunshine.

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Have read both books that have thus far been published. My favorite YA/PA series after The Hunger Games.

The movie is remarkably true to the novel. Sadly, though, in an apparent effort to stay below 2 hours instead of allowing for 2:15-2:40 running times like HG, they completely disregard any development of all but the main 4 characters, leaving everyone else to be interchangeable and expendable. Had they, say, skipped most of the first 12 minutes of the movie showing the first 3 waves instead of just describing them (as is done in the book), they would have had a few minutes there alone to develop Zombie's team and the military people, thus letting the viewer know what's truly going on. Instead, it feels like a reel is missing from the film.

That, and the fact that the director has no skill at evoking genuine emotion out of his actors, are my only two real gripes. Otherwise, I found the movie to be much better than early criticism has been.

However, if you've read the book, you will find that what is included in the movie is pretty much the way it happens in the novel. (And you
ll at least know better who the characters are and why they do what they do.)

And Chloƫ Grace Moretz was awesome as always. <3 <3 <3

8/10

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My second favorite as well. I did see some areas of improvement, but overall I found them minimal. I actually can't believe this movie is getting terrible reviews (worse than The Maze Runner, Divergent). I thought it was way better than reviews and deserved and warranted something at least decent (at least 50s on metacritic and 60s on RT).

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I think the reason for the runtime, was the budget. You could say that htere have been longer movies with lower budgets made, but keep in mind that the team behind the camera plays a big part in this also. Some manage money better than others.

"Experience is the teacher of all things." -Julius Caesar

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Exactly! There was no character development so you don't have any emotional investment when they go on their first mission. I had the same complaint with "The Mortal Instrument." It was all Jace &amp; Clary and no background onAlec or Isabelle. For whatever reason screenwriters can't seem to bring a book to the big screen if it involves more than 2 or 3 characters. Harry Potter did it beautifully but too many recent adaptions have failed miserably.

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I thought it followed the book more closely than most. They rushed though a few things, but seemed to hit all the major points.
Honestly, the thing that bugged me the most was that we never got the "Mayfly" nickname that Evan gave Cassie in the book. Also wish we would have seen more of the stuff with Evan/Cassie at his house and the training/bonding stuff with Ben and co at the base. I also missed Wonderland and the spirit merging thing with Even/Cassie (since I felt like that was when she decided to fully trust him). But, overall I liked the movie and thought they did a decent job of portraying it so that non-book readers could understand the plot.

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I've read both books twice and love them. The movie not so much. The book is way better.

Had high hopes for the movie, but it wasn't as good as it could have been.

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maybe the reason i liked the movie was because i didn't have high hopes for it.

you smell like pine needles and you have a face like sunshine.

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I saw the movie first and then am now reading the book. I almost prefer that as there are a lot of differences between the two and It is like I am reading a new story that I have the outline for but not the whole story. There are some parts I like better in the movie and some better in the book. For instance, in the book I preferred that Evan was the one who shot her as it makes his struggle to duty vs his heart more real. I also prefer the book when it comes the Evan/Cassie it is a lot more steamy and the connection is more evident as well as more back story on Evan and his struggle. I preferred in the movie that Cassie got off the bus and then it left without her vs her not being allowed on the bus. I am sort of bored with all the military story stuff in the book but enjoy the connection between Ben/Sam in the book. I am only at the part where they have been dropped to fight the supposed others on their first mission which is a lot different but I do not mind too much. I saw the movie twice and enjoyed it a lot. I hope they make a second one and that Evan is alive. I guess I will find out when I read more. I am a sucker for YA romance so again the book is WAY better in terms of Evan/Cassie and how their relationship is developing.

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You'll find out in the book Evan is still alive...

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