** spoilers *** So is she innocent or not? After watching season 2 my understanding was that she accepted the money and knew that an ambush was going to happen on Tommy hunter, and accepted because of his involvement in abusing that young girl, but this series she keeps pleading her innocence, so is that because she genuinely is and didn't know about the ambush or because she just wants others to believe it??
shareI always thought that she was not complicit with her colleagues being murdered but was not concerned about Hunter's health and safety as he was a monster.
shareI'm confused because I can't remember what happened in series 2. Did it show us in series 2 that she did accept that money? I thought she was framed. I wish they had done a previously at the beginning of this new series because it's been a year or 2 since I saw it :/
shareYes it showed us a flashback. There was a young girl who she witnessed being forced into a car, later on the witness protection officer offered her money to be involved in the movement of the witness and then something was going to happen to him( this is where I'm confused, not sure if she knew about an actual ambush) and at first she said no but then she was persuaded as it was the only way to protect this young girl and get justice and stop it from happening to other young girls as he was in witness protection programme so couldn't be arrested for it. The witness protection officer leaves and gets in the car with the caddy!
shareAlso there's a 12 minute recap showing briefly what happened in series 1,2 and then preview of series 3 on bbc I player!
shareLindsey's niece was being abused by the paedophile ring.
Being extremely skilled, she infiltrated the group - posing as a corrupt cop prepared to take a £50K bribe to let Tommy escape.
So, while Lindsey DID take the £50K "bribe", it was to ensure her cover was protected (and also, the £50K was NOT planted by Steve Arnott)
Thus, Steve is in the clear (apart from the "fumblings") and Lindsey is in fact (or will be proven in the final episode to be) innocent as well.
Hope that clarifies :-)
She would only be innocent if that was an authorised action which it wasn't.
shareLindsey's niece was being abused by the paedophile ring.
Being extremely skilled, she infiltrated the group - posing as a corrupt cop prepared to take a £50K bribe to let Tommy escape.
So, while Lindsey DID take the £50K "bribe", it was to ensure her cover was protected (and also, the £50K was NOT planted by Steve Arnott)
Thus, Steve is in the clear (apart from the "fumblings") and Lindsey is in fact (or will be proven in the final episode to be) innocent as well.
SPOILER SORT OF SPOILER??????
When Lindsay said to Cotton that she was a police officer was she just forgetting she had been sacked or was she saying she had not been sacked and was really deep undercover all the time? am I being crazy suggesting this?
Lindsey's niece?? I wasn't aware she had a niece or even a brother/ sister at that matter. Where did it show that? I thought the young girl she witnessed was just a random young girl.
shareYes and no.
Lindsey was guilty of accepting the bribe - I can't recall the details (it's been a while since I've seen S2) but if I'm not mistaken, it was for noble reasons and not out of greed.
She was innocent of the crime she was convicted for, i.e. conspiring to murder her colleagues. She didn't know that was going to happen. She was framed by Dot Cotton, who was behind it all.
This series she was lying about the money being planted by Arnott (and him sleeping with her) because discrediting him, and AC-12's investigation, was the only way for her to regain her freedom.
Just finished the last three hours of this.
It was not a satisfying end for me. I am glad that Keeley was still able to present her character as strong to the very end committing suicide really at the end. How she got compromised is somewhat blurry. Her creativeness regarding Arnott was fair game to her to get out. In a way I wanted her to be eventually exonerated. After all a couple of serious scumbags were still strutting around and Sammy the Chamois played a cowardly dirty cop. Remember that Denton had no idea that officers were going to be hurt and yes doing bad for good. She was well entrapped and may have become a pawn later on.
She would have made a good regular character had she been reinstated.Look at the effort to protect the main offender from prosecution and even at the end the nasty stuff was glossed over. It is a pity that the legal adviser was not made to give up those manipulating her. I note no further information regarding the two survivors from the original killing. Seeing the list with names deleted including the very first killing confused me a little as I thought Daniel Mays was the angel of death tasked with taking out any in the know.
George Costigan gives a good performance in just about everything. In this he has to be the most despicable of people.
Glad I found out about the Probation Officer and Keeley. Does not happen often enough to sick Bs.
I was rooting for Lindsey in both series but feel that her conversation with Cotten at the end was off character. She was a very straight forward cop but from the time she got dragged downwards she must surely have felt that no one could be trusted considering that Arnott also had down her trust. Of course I might have been biased as I do enjoy Keeley working. Loved her very much in Tipping the Velvet just look at her long list of credits.
We were not given privy to the rogue cop in the vehicle at the end nor who else was involved. Perhaps there are out there more than a few who might just get their collar felt or are contemplating ending it all. The whole sordid mess of abuse is pervasive and in truth I see no reason that they should have a life if caught. They are despicable beyond words.
You are a very odd person. No one disputes that Lindsey is a very very smart woman. But her priorities and actions are NEVER about the safety for the police and her colleagues. It is always about herself. She doesn't care who gets hurt or how much she must lie. She took a bribe. She is responsible for multiple deaths and covered up a pedophile ring, without knowing(?), to make sure she and her family is safe. She doesn't care for other people. She even played Arnott again. She found the list of people who are in/on the pedophile ring. But instead of giving it to AC-12, she says to Dots she wants to use it to get back into the police. She wants to blackmail AC-12 to give her the police job back. I think she is a despicable woman with a warped sense of justice. I am glad she is dead.
"The end is not the end, but for the beginning an end is always near."
I was just about to say more or less that poster too. He or she doesn't quite understand what they were watching. At least he or she admitted to being biased towards the actress (which is besides the point). Two wrongs don't make a right. She was not guilty of what she was eventually charged for as she did not plan the deaths of her fellow officers. But she was culpable and she could have gone to higher ups once she knew or guessed what was happening. She acted on her own for her own and justified it in her mind. I am not saying she was wrong or right but as a police officer she should not have been acting on her own to the detriment of her fellow officers.
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I see Lindsey as being caught where there is a problem, but trying to resolve it through established channels won't work because those channels are plugged by the very people she is after. Just look at how committed Hastings had to be to pursue it. You just know that more than once he was contemplating his future vs solving the case, say, as evidenced by when he glossed over the abuse allegations early on. Denton was trapped, and she took measures to solve the immediate problem (abuse of her niece) by unconventional means. Desperate situations require desperate measures, and all. In a way, I really enjoyed the paths that both she and Steve had to travel to get to their justice at the end. I liked it because all the characters really had to step outside of their comfort box to get to truth of the matter. Many people are driven to make decisions based on their fear of losing something, and we got to see characters step beyond this fear. Look at how Fairbank went after Flemming as the weakest link. Just loved how they all showed up in their dress blues to effect the arrest in the most public and embarrassing way possible as their FU comeback. BTW, could Costigan have been any more opposite a character than the role he played on Happy Valley? In a way the casting reminds me of the film "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" where known characters were cast completely opposite of their type, and the end result was brilliant because they really had to work at it. Chris Meloni as the flaming gay hotel clerk? I was thinking the casting people had dropped more acid than Hunter S Thompson. Normally we would expect someone like Olivia Coleman to be cast as Denton and the performance might not seem as remarkable. Having Keeley play the role was electric. I need to look at shows I have seen that McClure and Dunbar were in because they didn't stand out here as known entities (Broadchurch, Ashes to Ashes), which means they were really playing a different character in the others, like Costigan.
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It was´nt ever really explained. But series 3 and Lindseys end surely wanted the viewer to believe that she was a victim. But as said in earlier post that was not the whole truth.
shareA mixture of guilty and not. She took the money to arrange an unlawful murder, but she had good intentions. She also backed out and tried to drive off course
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