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Fascist movie from a fascist regime

posted 11 years ago by christthi
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I mean if that kind of brain turd had been made in Hollywood it would have got a 3-4 score here.

But because of good ol' asian outsourcing fetish people are raving for it...

Anyways, Indonesia is a violent military regime and this crap is only aimed at justifying militaristic police raids.

[–] SuperMah 11 years ago

I had no idea about the stuff you mentioned. I watched the movie and loved it the whole way through. It made me feel for when the leader of the group died and the fight scenes kept me on the edge of my seat. For me that is a good movie and it had nothing to do with the origins of the film.

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[–] indiratiarani 11 years ago

It's funny how some smart ass people calling out other country being 'this' and 'that' based on certain movies they watch. While those movies are made based on or inspired by the stories from that smart ass' people country.

[–] teaguetod 11 years ago

Indonesia is a violent military regime ... this is aimed at justifying militaristic police raids.

I'm embarrassed to say I hadn't really thought about that. I was living in Brazil when a similar film -- Tropa de Elite (Elite Squad, 2007) -- came out, which portrayed SWAT teams invading favelas and randomly killing a lot of people. It even got criticized in the foreign press as 'slum-porn,' or 'guns-and-poverty-porn,' following on the success of Cidade de Deus.

I guess I would point out two things. Firstly, around the world, the poor always suffer disproportionately at the hands of the police. In the poorest countries, what passes for law enforcement often resembles a constant, low-intensity civil war against the poorest citizens.

Secondly, it's hard to make a movie that really criticizes the injustice of the so-called justice system. Corruption is almost always shown as the exception, not the rule. The systemic injustice that is built into the very structure of society is never seriously examined. That wouldn't make for a very exciting action movie.

Former U.S. Marine Anthony Swofford, who wrote the memoir that became the movie Jarhead (2005), said that every war movie is really pro-war, even the movies that try to be antiwar. Because even 'antiwar' flicks like Full Metal Jacket or Apocalypse Now are like pornography for the military men hungry to see action.

In the same way, maybe it's impossible to make a cops-and-robbers action movie that is truly anti-authoritarian, becuase they still always end up justifying an unjust system (directly or not).

[–] sigits 11 years ago

Anyways, Indonesia is a violent military regime and this crap is only aimed at justifying militaristic police raids.

Indonesia WAS a violent military regime. From 1966 to 1998 to be precise under General Suharto. When huge Asian monetary crisis hit Indonesia, Indonesian people led by students marching on the streets to fight the regime and finally he stepped down. Starting from 1998 Indonesia turned into democratic country just like in western world until now.

Check your fact before commenting.

[–] jacksonmayhem 10 years ago

It was directed and written by a Welsh man, so you're either trolling or incredibly *beep* stupid.

[–] Prismark10 10 years ago

I never knew Wales was run by the Taffyban!

Its that man again!!

[–] Zero_Wolf 10 years ago

One of the key plot points of the movie was that half the Jakarta police force was corrupt.

Hardly the type of movie a regime would put out to give its total political control some kind of moral authority.
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[–] spookyrat1 10 years ago

Hardly the type of movie a regime would put out to give its total political control some kind of moral authority.

I don't think the OP's understanding of the movie managed to run that deep to understand this key point.🐭