All the stuff about white privilege, making the good cops and politicians and even criminals black while all the evil ones are white, the QAnon Riddler. It all screams the year it was made
shareYep. It's gonna be cringe as hell in 20 years. That's why the art of subtly is so important. You can be all about current year politics with your art. You can have agenda and a message. But you have to cloak it. Or it just becomes disposable propaganda. Instead of something still being consumed by the masses 200 years later.
shareSays the foreign degenerate trash troll poster. Maybe if you were actually born and raised in the United States you'd know that there's nothing exceptional about the casting in this film. (See Die Hard, Beverly Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon, every Sidney Poitier film going back to the 1950s, etc.) Of course, Eurotrash like you aren't used to seeing blacks in prominent, positive roles but will scream propaganda about a movie that is doing what hundreds of American movies have been doing for 60 Plus years already. Just because Eurotrash like you are still stuck in the 1800s doesn't mean Americans have been.
share200 years later??? Hahahaha you moron. Films havent even been around that long...
shareStupid foreign trash obviously never saw one of the most popular American franchises of all time, Die Hard, where all the bad guys were white guys, the head villain a German and the two good guys who help Bruce Willis save the day a black chauffeur and cop. Word of advice, stick to passing comment on your own shitty culture, not American culture.
shareThe specific word "privilege" is loaded these days, but I think any future generations watching The Batman just won't get that specific connotation (or might go, "Oh, yeah, I read/heard about that." - hopefully...)
But stuff like a psychotic in his bedroom stewing and coming up with manifestos isn't unique to the era we live in. There's just as much Columbine Shooter and Unibomber in Riddler as there is QAnon.
Did The Dark Knight age poorly? It drew on Bush-era hot-buttons like the Patriot Act. Its sequel was clearly nestled in the ideas of the Occupy movement. Batman '89 has Prince in the soundtrack, but I still love that movie. It has some things that are dated (fashion, for instance) and some things that are timeless. I think the same is true of The Batman, and I think it'll age pretty well because the action scenes are thrilling and cool, the performances are great, and overall it's a really good Batmovie.
I doubt it. Yes Gordon is black in this, and Selina is biracial -- that never struck me as deliberate race-swapping, it struck me as the by-product of casting Jeffrey Wright and Zoe Kravitz, both of whom are great actors and play their parts very well. Bruce is still white, so is Alfred. Yes Carmine Falcone, Penguin, the Riddler, and the Joker are all white. Guess what, those characters have always been white.
As for all the dirty cops... Have you ever actually read Batman comics? It's been an intrinsic part of the character and his fictional universe for decades that one of the key reasons he decided to become a vigilante in order to fight crime, was that Gotham was so putrid with corruption, and that dirty cops, and prosecutors, and city officials infested the whole system, right up to the very highest levels of city government. So the only way he could make a difference for the better was to work from outside the corrupt system, and cultivate a handful of trustworthy, non-corrupt allies within, like Gordon, and like Harvey Dent (before he went insane and became Two Face). This couldn't be made more clear in "Batman: Year One," which was written by Frank Miller back in 1987.
The only obvious nod to present-day woke politics that I saw was Selina's use of the words "those white, privileged assholes," which I did indeed hate that they used. That aside, I think the movie will age just fine.
No one has ever accused Zoe Kravitz of being “a great [actress.]” Charlize Theron and Helen Mirren are great actresses. Kravitz is serviceable, not great. This is the second time that Hollywood’s cast a black woman as Catwoman. Don’t even try to tell me there’s not an agenda there.
Eartha Kitt was the first black Catwoman, on the 60s Batman TV show, replacing Julie Newmar, who left the roll. I exempt her from my “agenda” statement.
I don't mean Kravitz is the next Meryl Streep. I think she's great in this part, whether or not she has the range to do lots of other roles well. John Wayne was a great actor -- within his range limitations. He probably couldn't have played Shakespeare, and he was certainly awful as Genghis Khan in "The Conqueror," but watch him in "The Searchers" or "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and you'll see a great actor turning in a fantastic performance.
And sorry, I'm not buying the agenda without more evidence.
Catwoman was also mixed in the year one comic book. Catwoman's race has never been essential to her character.
shareIt'll be no more dated than how 80's flicks about Cold War symbolism are clearly from their time periods.
shareThat and it not being a good movie in the first place.
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