01) The Dark Knight Rises - A+
02) The Dark Knight - A+
03) Batman Begins - A
04) Joker (yeah I’m counting it) - A
05) Batman - A-
06) Batman Returns - B
07) The Batman - B
08) Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm - B
09) Batman Forever - C
10) Batman: The Movie - D
11) Batman And Robin - D-
12) Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice - F
This is the improved best Batman movie rankings and by the way, Joker is not a Batman movie
1) Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice - Best Batman film ever because it also had Superman and Wonder Woman
2) Batman: The Movie
3) Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm
4) The Dark Knight
5) Batman And Robin
6) The Batman
7) Batman Returns
8) Batman
9) Batman Begins
10) Batman Forever
11) The Dark Knight Rises
Funny
shareThe Dark Knight Rises sucks. Put it near the bottom.
shareNaw I don't think I will.
shareTDKR is the worst Batman movie since Batman & Robin. Utter trash.
shareFind another outlet for your unjustified temper tantrums.
shareFind another obsession cos TDKR is the worst Batman movie in decades.
shareYou’re an overly emotional man baby hater, get a life you loser.
shareLmao says the one that lives on this site talking about the same crappy movie for years. Get a life.
shareI wasn’t even talking about TDKR, I was talking about my Batman rankings know that I’ve seen The Batman, you are literally the one who wanted to talk about TDKR you imbecile. I listed 12 Batman movies and you singled out that one. You need help, kid.
shareYou literally just gave a review of TDKR in your last comment. Just shut the hell up about TDKR, it's the worst of Nolan's Batman movies. Get over it.
shareThat’s because someone asked me you idiot. It’s also irrelevant because I never went out of my way to give you “my review”, I never specifically talked about TDKR until I was directly asked to. (nice logical fallacy however). The one who chose to single out TDKR was yourself and the other poster, not me. You are an overly obsessed hater throwing a temper tantrum, get a life and get over yourself you loser. Seeing a therapist might help as well.
shareYou make these threads just to have an excuse to talk about shitty TDKR with it's conveyor belt of plot holes and bad scriptwriting. Almost no one agrees with you that it's better than TDK, get over it. Honestly, I worry for your mental health. You have spent literally years on this site talking about the same movie. It's not that serious. Move on with your life.
shareHoly shit you are obsessed, seriously kid you need to see some kind of a counselor because your behavior is not rational. I “make these threads” to rank my favorite Batman movies now that The Batman had been released. You respond to “these threads” just to talk about TDKR. You singled out TDKR because you are an overly obsessed hater. You have no one to blame but yourself. I mentioned 11 other Batman movies and you chose to take the conversation in the direction of TDKR. If anyone has an unnatural obsession with TDKR it is yourself.
shareLol an obsessed loser calling someone else obsessed. You have 12,000 posts on this site, a big chunk of them being about one shitty movie - TDKR. And you're fooling nobody about your intention when you make these threads. You've posted almost 20 replies on this thread alone and they're all about TDKR. Get a goddamn life you loser.
shareTake your obsessive hatred somewhere numb nuts and TDKR was never a topic of discussion until you chose to single it out. If it turned out that was my intention to talk about TDKR without having to bring it up then yeah that would mean you played right into my hands. Also check yourself into therapy, you need serious help and I hate your parents for whatever they did to you.
EDIT: The fact that you are now using profanity just further proves my point of how mentally unhinged you are. Get some help you psycho.
You're having 5 separate conversations about TDKR on this thread alone. Like I said, you're an obsessed loser. When you die, TDKR will flash before your eyes because you don't have a life. Loser.
shareNone of which were started by me (although one was initiated you you), every time I was responding to someone else's comment. Learn how to read you retard.
shareYou initiated it when you came here and put TDKR as your number 1 Batman movie. You did it on purpose because you knew people would comment on your shitty ranking. You're not fooling anyone loser. You need to move on with your life, if you have one. It's just a movie bud, let it go.
shareLOL so simply stating that TDKR is my #1 pick when I literally listed 11 other films that constitutes me initiating a discussion on TDKR? I want a batch of whatever you're smoking. Even if I grant you your premise all that would prove is that I was able to manipulate you, don't think you want to go down that road, junior.
shareNobody looks at the rest of the list, the eye gravitates to the number one pick. You haven't manipulated anyone, you mention TDKR in the hopes that people will agree with you, but almost nobody does. It's a shite ending to the trilogy. The movie sucks. You suck.
shareThat’s no one’s problem but your own, if you refuse to read that’s on you.
Apparently I have manipulated you, according to you my conspiracy was to get you to talk about TDKR and that’s exactly what you’re doing.
I don’t need anyone to agree with me, if that actually mattered to me I would be happy with the fact that it received great reviews, widespread acclaim and is the 69th greatest film of all time on IMDB.
EDIT: Also I never claimed I manipulated you, I said if we go by your premise (which is unfounded) that would mean I manipulated you. Learn how to read dickhead.
Again, you made this thread because you want people to agree with you that TDKR is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but almost no one agrees with you and it tears you up inside. You need to let it go pal, there's more important things in life besides a shit ending to a trilogy. At least pick a movie with less plot holes to obsess over.
shareShow me proof that those were my intentions. Until you do you’re just talking out of your asshole because everything I posted says otherwise.
I never said TDKR was the greatest thing since sliced bread, nor did I ever say I wanted people to think that. Again more evidence of your piss poor reading comprehension. Again you’re just talking out of your asshole.
I don’t care if anyone agrees with me, if I did I would be happy with the fact that TDKR received universal acclaim
Find another outlet for your hatred and your obsession. I’m not interested in you dumping your personal emotional problems onto my thread. Go get a hobby (or a girlfriend) you lowlife.
The proof is that you've posted thousands of messages about this one shitty movie. Everyone knows you're an obsessed fantard.
The irony in you telling other people to get a hobby.
Edit: hilarious that you edited your post to add 'or a girlfrield'. Projecting much? There is no way in hell you have a girlfriend. No one has this much time to discuss the same shitty plot hole riddled movie unless they're eternally single.
Oh really? You actually counted? The fact that you took so much of your time to count how many threads someone on movie chat made about a movie you hate only further shows your unnatural obsession with TDKR. We get it, you don’t like it, suck it up and move on with your life.
I see you are immune to good advice, at least I tried.
Not really, if I didn’t type “Edit” you would just bitch and moan like a toddler that I tried to “deceptively edit” my post. I have barely said anything about TDKR in a while, I made one post where I mentioned it as part of my rankings now that The Batman has been released and you automatically lost your shit. Honestly if you actually did have a girlfriend (and let’s be honest you don’t) she would hate TDKR as well, not because of the same reasons you hate it, but because her loser boyfriend is ignoring her so he can bitch and moan about it to a bunch of strangers so he can feel important.
I don't need to count it, it's a ballpark figure. The only thing sadder than how much you post about TDKR is trying to deny you post that much about TDKR. Colossal loser that you are.
Lol again, stop projecting buddy. Nobody posts this consistently unless they're dating their hand. Almost 13,000 posts...you must have calluses on your hands.
So you’re talking out of your asshole, figured. And yet here you are talking about TDKR, the same thing you accused me of despite the fact that you initiated this conversation. I’m not interested in your emotional breakdown, people think differently than you, suck it up and grow up, you man baby. Your opinion is no more important than anyone else’s. You could have just chosen to not respond to this thread or just not talk about TDKR but you did because you are clearly battling some insecurities.
A post takes me about 30 seconds and I’ve had this account for years, but yeah I’m totally just wasting my life. Nice deflection attempt, shit for brains.
Your post count is right there by your name, everyone can see it loser. You have no life.
Lmao at 30 seconds, you write essays about TDKR having the same argument again and again. 13,000 posts...LOSER.
OK so I’ve had the account for 4 years, 13,000 divided by 4 is 3250, divide that by 365 that is about 9 posts per day, it takes about 30 seconds to make one post so that’s a whopping 4 and a half minutes of my life, lol is that really the best you can do? And who is the person who has no life? The one who posts on moviechat or the one who has a temper tantrum over someone posting on movie chat? Find another outlet for your anger, yes not everyone agrees with you, life isn’t fair, find a hobby and quit being an overly obsessed troll boy.
shareFirst of all, posting 9 times a day for 4 years straight on a movie forum does not help your case at all, it just further proves you're a loser.
Secondly, it's laughable that you're trying to convince me that you only spend 4.5 minutes here per day. That's just the time is takes to physically write the post, to post that frequently means you're on this site all the time, reading other posts and thinking about what to write.
Thirdly, you were exposed as having several sock puppet accounts where you pretend to be someone else agreeing with you about TDKR being a great movie. So 13,000 posts is just the tip of the iceberg. Lmao can you say LOSER? I shudder to think what you look like, probably like Gabe Newell.
And yet you have posted more than 9 times in a matter of hours in just this one conversation, so by your own standard you are a pathetic loser. Also I noticed you have conveniently steered this conversation away from TDKR, not that I blame you that was a losing argument.
It’s simple math, numb nuts, it takes about 30 seconds to write a post, 30 seconds times 9 is 4 and a half minutes. Not to mention you conveniently ignored the fact that all I do is post on moviechat, you take the time to analyze how much time I post on moviechat and then flip your shit over how much time I spend on movie chat while ignoring your own unhealthy obsession.
I changed my username, that’s not having a sock puppet you moron and I was open from the beginning that I changed my username. I challenge you to find one instance where I was actively using two accounts, balls in your court you loser. Maybe you should spend less time worrying about what I to and focus more on confronting your own insecurities and very unhealthy obsessions.
This is an anomaly for me though. I don't even have 2,000 posts and you're closing in on 13,000. Lol hilarious that you're trying to lump me in with your sad behaviour. Get a life dickhead.
Lmao so you admit you have more than one account. That just makes things even sadder. So you do in fact have even more than 12,700 posts. Can you say SADDO.
And don't make me dig up the posts where you were exposed by several users for your sock accounts. Stand down kid before I embarrass you.
And here you are, back as expected obsessing over someone else’s posting history. Seriously kid, your behavior is just not normal, you need help, your behavior is bordering on obsessive compulsive. You are an angry, bitter, immature and insecure little brat who shits his pants whenever someone doesn’t share his narrow minded viewpoint. Seeing how you can’t prove that I was ever actually using two accounts at once I am going to dismiss your case, it’s a losing argument for you anyways. But what can I expect from someone retarded enough to think that positing a “Batman film rankings” is somehow a “TDKR thread” and someone who doesn’t understand the difference between changing your username and having sock accounts.
Get a life you loser. (Although it may be too late for you)
Ok buddy you asked for it.
https://moviechat.org/user/5d4b8671893552732c13bbb2
This is your sock account. You made this account ONLY to post on the TDKR board and half the posts are responses to yourself. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
https://moviechat.org/tt1345836/The-Dark-Knight-Rises/5f09137a9321b575cb51f819/Is-Christopher-Nolans-Batman-Trilogy-MASSIVELY-OVERRATED?reply=5f0d3ef96f764961bff7d239
You getting exposed by other users. Lmao you are PATHETIC. I have honestly never come across someone so pathetic in my life.
Nope, neither of them are mine. I know this may break your fragile little bubble but there are people other than me who like TDKR.
You are 0-2, care to continue?
BTW your behavior is borderline stalking, if you weren't so pathetic I might be a little weirded out.
LOL ok buddy. It's clearly you and you've been called out on it by several users.
You literally made that account just to defend TDKR and majority of his responses are to you licking your ass. You're exposed. Run along now.
HAHAHAHA, so I talk about a wide variety of topics (Indiana Jones, Star Wars, mob films, politics, Batman, James Bond,etc) and your conspiracy theory is that I created a sock account just to prop up my opinion of one of the many things I talk about? I'll ask again: WTF are you smoking. Also while I'm at it you and jerkporkins have very similar posts and you are both pitching a overly emotion temper tantrum over your hatred. I'm betting you are his sock account. See how easy that was? Now go away to some kind of safe space where you belong. More people love TDKR than hate it, it makes total sense that one of those people would somehow find their way onto moviechat you stupid ass dickwad.
shareLOL hilarious watching you scramble to explain away your sock puppet accounts.
You literally just created that account to defend TDKR at a time when you were constantly posting on that board, majority of his responses are you and him circle jerking over the film and then he promptly disappears when we call you out on your sock puppet account. You're not fooling ANYBODY douchenozzle. There's no user that fits all of these convenient coincidences to me so that's a pathetic attempt at deflecting. Lol man you got your ass reamed. You're an embarrassment. Your face must be as red as a baboons ass right now.
Seriously kid, calm the hell down and accept the fact that your bullshit doesn't make any sense to even the most retarded of retards. jerkporkins is your sock puppet and you are trying to deflect the fact that you have a sock account by making up bullshit accusations that I have a sock account whether it makes sense to or not, and it largely does not. Get fucked you lowlife. Also keep your disturbing circle jerk fantasies to yourself you sick pervert.
shareAhahahahaha you are fucking owned buddy. I've got you right in my pocket.
Exposed like the pathetic fantard you are. Fuck you.
And yet even if I accept your poorly thought out premise all that would prove is that I manipulated you into doing what I wanted you to. Your behavior isn't normal, you need help. you are an angry, overly emotional manbaby. I think you need to be in some kind of adult daycare center in the afternoon because someone needs to be keeping a close eye on you.
shareP-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. You're owned now, i've got you in my back pocket.
shareI live in your head rent free
shareYou live in my back pocket. Owned and humiliated.
shareMaybe in your deluded retard alternate reality
shareOwned.
shareGet your head out of your ass and come back to reality.
shareSpanked and shat on. Your life sucks.
shareI guess you prefer to keep your head remained up your ass. You sure do love the smell of your own shit you deluded narcissist.
shareLol i've basically ruined your life since you live on this site and your rep is destroyed.
shareBuahahahaha, I only respond to you for my own entertainment, but keep perpetuating your narcissistic delusion, it’s comical to watch.
shareLol it's cute how you try to convince yourself you weren't humiliated. Lmao at sock puppet accounts. Absolute saddo.
shareYeah you and the imaginary sock puppet, go check yourself into therapy you demented fuck.
shareLol ok saddo who has conversations with himself.
shareII think you are confused with yourself and your own sock puppet jerkporkins. So multiple people on this thread have given a high ranking to TDKR, are they all of my imaginary “sock puppets” as well? Is that what you tell yourself every day so you can live with yourself?
shareLol you're trying so hard to save face. Your only friends are your sock puppets lmao.
shareYou are literally describing yourself , shit for brains
shareLoser.
shareNarcissist
shareCrybaby.
shareManbaby
shareFailure.
shareLowlife
shareFriendless virgin.
shareRetarded dickhead
shareNolan fantard.
shareObsessed stalker
share13K posts. Loser.
share1 minute response time loser.
shareThat didn't even make sense. Idiot.
shareIt does if you aren’t retarded
shareShit for brains.
shareUnoriginal retort
shareSays the guy that constantly repeats himself.
shareAnd yet you apparently are no better than what you claim I am. Speak for yourself you loser.
shareLol fucking loser. Always ready to reply cos you live on this site. LOSER.
shareOh yeah, me actually posting on it must mean I do nothing else. Are you trolling or are you really that retarded?
shareLoser still replying almost immediately. You have no life.
shareI'm using the board for its intended purpose. You are using it to analyze my positing habits. Yeah you're the actual loser, numb nuts
shareYou just proved my point again. Always ready to reply waiting here like a dog. Loser.
shareLOL yet it took you the same amount of time to reply just now you idiot
shareI don't come here for weeks sometimes. You're always here like the no life dog that you are.
shareYou come here to compile and analyze my rate of posting, that is borderline stalker behavior. All I do is use the forum for what it was intended for. You need help you loser.
shareLook, I'd say Dark Knight Rises is right there with Batman & Robin. I'm not even trolling. It's a mess. I have never seen anyone put it at the top. That's pretty bold. To each their own - that's the point of personal rankings.
Love to hear your reasoning there if you don't mind...
To be honest, I got more enjoyment out of Batman & Robin. It's at least entertainingly bad. TDKR is just bad. Chock full of plot holes you could drive a Tumbler through.
shareSure I love the characters, Bane is an amazing villain, I love what they did with Gordon’s character, Bruce’s character arc was amazing, the symbolism of the Lazarus Pit (or just the pit whatever) was epic (he was able to escape from the pit because he realizes he cares about his life, therefore when he rises from it he is reborn and rejuvenated), the action was awesome, the acting was great, and the parallels to A Tale of Two Cities I really loved as that is my all time favorite novel and I loved the commentary on human nature. The last 5 minutes were the most emotionally and satisfying 5 minutes I have ever seen.
Anyone who says this is on the level of Batman and Robin is clearly engaging in hyperbole and all of the problems I have heard people complain about stem from not understanding the movie (there are still people out there who think Bruce quit because of Rachel, I saw it on YouTube).
I'm certainly not engaging in hyperbole.
There's nothing worse than a complete stranger making assumptions about someone with nothing to back it up with. I could easily say you just have blinders on since you were touched because it spoke to you due to your favorite book.
There are tons of reasons I dislike this movie. Off the top of my head:
I thought the action was dull. Frankly, Nolan doesn't do fighting scenes well in any of the Batman movies.
I thought Bane was mediocre. Loved the jacket though.
But... to me it was the amount of "huhs" in the movie that broke me. Off the top of my head:
- Bruce loses his fortune overnight? It doesn't work like that and there is no way those trades would not be considered fraudulent.
- They turn the power off immediately at Wayne Manor? Please, it would take at least three months.
- Every single cop was in the sewers? No. Way. Lazy writing.
- So a brace fixes Bruce's leg after six years on a crutch? Honestly, why not just NOT have the leg issue at all? It leads absolutely nowhere. Lazy writing.
- So Bane takes days off of his master plan to smuggle Bruce out of Gotham, fly across the globe to drop him in a prison in Asia, have his scene, then fly back to Gotham?
- Bruce is like JFK Jr famous and is sipping wine in Europe without a disguise. There is no way he wouldn't be recognized. I mean, at least put a wig or beard on him.
- Blake just 'knew' Wayne was Batman. Really? Lazy writing.
- How did Bane know where the armory was when Lucius said it off the books?
I held this movie to a higher standard because it was a Nolan movie. It seemed to me he didn't want to do this and was forced to, and it showed in his writing and lackluster directing. It led to what I hated about this - laziness. Which really sucked because his two prior Batmans are so dang incredible.
If you are comparing it to Batman and Robin you very much are and you clearly don’t understand it
As for your “complaints”:
- Lucius said straight up they’d be able to get Bruce’s money back but it would take time. It didn’t matter to Bane and Talia, they only needed it to work short term.
- They knew Bruce couldn’t afford it at the time, his bankruptcy was front page news
- Not every cop was sent to the sewer, and while I’m at it in both of the previous movies “every available unit” was sent to a certain location, how was Gordon supposed to know the city was lined with explosive concrete? The only thing that’s lazy here is yourself
- Because Bruce didn’t care during those 4 years, that was the point of his character arc, he now cares about his life and wants to put Batman behind him. He could have put the brace on but seeing how he had no intention of leaving the mansion there was no point
- Uhhhh yeah, what’s your point? He wanted to rub it in Bruce’s face that he wasn’t getting out of the pit and that he was going to blow up Gotham. This mission was very personal to Bane, he wanted to make Bruce suffer as much as possible .
- Ummmmm do you know the faces of rich people in Italy? I sure as hell don’t. There are plenty of famous people I know of that I don’t know their faces. He wouldn’t have been recognized. I know exactly who Adam Schiff is yet I have no idea what he looks like, I just know the name. In order for your premise to be legitimate you’d have to prove that people in Italy knew what he looked like and no such thing was ever established.
- It was clearly explained how Blake deduced his identity, pay attention next time
- Miranda Tate was the CEO, she probably did some digging and then told Bane. She knew Bruce was Batman and probably was just like “now where could he have gotten military grade equipment, oh yeah that’s right, the business he runs that produces military grade equipment”. Hell even Coleman Reese figured out where Applied Sciences was and he had nothing against Bruce nor was he even the CEO of the damn company.
Your complaints are evidence of nothing more than your inability to understand the movie, no wonder you hate it.
MovieChatUser497, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it.
I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
"Arguing with an internet dork is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over your pieces, crap on the board, and then strut around acting like he won."
Lol you can’t even come up with your own retort , you have to rip off some crappy Adam Sandler movie. I accept your concession. Seriously kid, get a life, you are being hysterical over a movie that you claim you don't even like, that's really pathetic.
shareI KNEW you couldn't resist replying... even when I wrote this part.
"Arguing with an internet dork is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over your pieces, crap on the board, and then strut around acting like he won."
And here you are, pigeon. Note that I'm not trying to argue with you. I simply asked for your reasoning and you immediately went to condescending remarks (you don't get the movie.. like this is heavy filmmaking that needs reflection) and insults.
Seriously, we're all sitting on my couch laughing at the fact you think there are parallels to A Tale of Two Cities just because Alfred uses that stale "far better thing" quote. Next thing you'll say it's got parallels to Dumas' the Man in the Iron Mask because Bane wore a mask and was in prison.
You’re just trying to find a convenient way to get out of the hole you dug for yourself. Well that’s your own damn fault, numb nuts.
Uhhh first of all that was Gordon, not Alfred, secondly if you actually read the novel you’d see the parallels. It goes far beyond just one quote you idiot. Talia and Bane are direct parallels to the DeFarges, Talia even has the tragic and almost sympathetic backstory that Madame Defarge does despite the fact that they are both still evil, plus the themes are similar. Bruce and Batman (yes I realize they are the same person) are also similar to Sydney Carton and Charles Darnay. But of course you think it all boils down to one quote being recycled.
In all honesty your probably doing the right thing by running away from this discussion, the more you talk the more you prove my point.
EDIT: It’s also quite odd that you’d insinuate that I am somehow obsessive by responding to you when you yourself are actively responding to me. So maybe you should try taking a good hard look at your own behavior and do some self reflection.
Wow, you take beatings on these boards every day. Funny thing is you keep coming back for more
shareWe get that you have a special love for this film, and if you think it's the best Batman film, that's on you. We all like what we like. That said, you have to be honest. Everything Jekporkins wrote is accurate. I won't go point by point, but to address the more obvious ones:
Even if someone's bankruptcy makes front-page news, the power company still has to follow the rules. You don't immediately turn that person's power off. They wouldn't even turn it off at the end of the billing cycle, either. There are laws about that. Not to mention the fact that bankruptcy does not mean destitute. Bruce Wayne may well have millions of dollars staffed in a safe, or a bank's safe deposit box, or various other places.
Bruce Wayne is clearly too famous to sit in a public cafe unnoticed. Just because you don't know what Adam Schiff looks like doesn't mean that most everyone knows what Elon Musk or Bill Gates, for example, look like. A random politician is not the same as the wealthiest man in the world.
Anyway, I think The Dark Knight Rises is a shitty film. It's worse than Batman and Robin to me, because at least the latter was meant to be campy fun. A film like TDKR, with a near-three-hour runtime, that takes itself so seriously, that sucks that badly, is worse in my opinion.
Even if the power company did something they weren't supposed to, Bruce could have fought and had the power turned back on, but that's not the point, he didn't care, he thought he was going to die soon anyways. The Bruce that rose from the pit however would have called the power company because he is a reborn Bruce Wayne who cares about his life. (the old Bruce didn't)
By what standard are you concluding that Bruce is "too famous" to not be recognized? Again are you familiar with the faces of Italian billionaires? I'm not even familiar with the faces of American billionaires even though I may know their names.
Again you are engaging in hyperbole, there's no way to take you seriously when you put it on the same level as Batman and Robin. If I said that Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was on the level of Batman and Robin (or hell even Crystal Skull) which is a movie I hate you'd say the same thing.
What do Italian billionaires have to do with any of this? Bruce Wayne is purported to be a celebrity of the same status as Paris Hilton or Bill Gates. He's someone recognized anywhere. Meanwhile, Italian billionaires fall into the same category as most wealthy people, which is to say they are anonymous.
As for lumping it with Batman and Robin, there is nothing hyperbolic or flippant in the comparison. Both are bad movies. One is bad in that it is super-campy, the other in that it is goofy while taking it self incredibly seriously, but both are terrible films. I don't care for the Last Crusade either, but I would not rate it with Batman and Robin, or the Crystal Skull, because it's not a terrible film.
If we don't recognize Italian billionaires then it would be illogical that Italians would recognize American billionaires. Bruce Wayne was established to be a celebrity IN GOTHAM, not in Italy, sorry but you haven't proven your point and it is dismissed.
It is absolutely hyperbolic, TDKR is nowhere close to the level of Batman and Robin and it used to be people who didn't even like the movie didn't stoop that low. Are you seriously trying to say that the power being cut off too early is anywhere near the level of surfing from outer space? False equivalence on your part. TDKR is not a terrible film, in fact it's a great film, Batman and Robin, Last Crusade and Crystal Skull are all terrible films.
The proof is to ask yourself-- if Elon Musk sat at an outdoor cafe in Italy, would he be recognized? The answer is overwhelmingly yes. It would not be just Americans recognizing him. He's a globally famous figure, just as Bruce Wayne is. Also realize that famous Americans are famous worldwide. Famous Italians, with a few possible exceptions, are only famous in Italy.
Again, YOU like TDKR, so to you it is better than Batman and Robin. The films are equally bad. That you have a special place in your heart for one does not make it better, not does it make comparing the two somehow disingenuous.
I have no idea, maybe, maybe not. I have no idea what he looks like, also you didn't establish that Bruce had the same facial recognition as Elon Musk, keep in mind he hadn't been seen in the public eye for 4 years and one of the times he was photographed he used his EMP device to deactivate the cameras. Sorry your premise is still dismissed.
The films are nowhere near the same level, Batman and Robin is one of the worst movies ever made, TDKR was universally loved. All you are doing is spouting out your own biased, subjective opinion.
Dismiss it all you want. My point stands that a man famous for being one of the richest men in the world would not sit in a public cafe sans disguise after faking his own death.
We are both sharing our own opinions about the films. There is no bias involved. You think TDKR is a great movie, I think it's a terrible movie. It's by no stretch universally loved. I'd argue it's closer to being universally ridiculed. Nonetheless, you love it, I think it's Batman and Robin level of bad.
Your point doesn’t stand because you have failed to demonstrate it, all you are doing is baselessly speculating and it won’t be accepted. Edit: speaking of that I seem to remember Bruce being arrested in Asia and no one recognized him, until Ra’s found him in the jail. I seem to remember him going to Hong Kong and no one recognized him (and don’t give me it was because he was wearing sunglasses). Your case is dismissed, you are the weakest link, good bye.
It actually is universally loved, critics and fans gave it overwhelmingly positive reviews , you are in the minority
i haven't seen some of these movies, and i haven't seen others in ages - decades in the case of the burton films...but here's my ranking of what i have watched.
1 - joker 4/5
2 - dark knight rises - 3.5/5
3 - batman returns - 3.5
4 - the dark knight - 3.5
5 - the batman 3
6 - batman 3
7 - batman begins 3
8 - batman v superman - 2
weirdly enough, even though i think bvs is the worst batman film, it's the only one i've watched a few times in the last 5 years. i actually think it's a compulsively watchable film, even though it's silly and bad, because it's kinda fascinating and fun to look at how overblown and ridiculous and wrong-headed it is at times. it's a bit like prometheus in that way to me.
at some point you kinda have to ask yourself if you truly think a movie is bad when you watch it more than once and seem to have something like a good time while you're watching it.
Why is TDKR above TDK? I thought people lambasted the former as being far too ridiculous to actually happen!
Because I liked it better. And as for your second point it got great reviews so more people clearly loved it instead of “lambasting” it. Also all Batman movies are too ridiculous to actually happen, they are comic book movies, that’s the point. Much like how in The Batman a bomb goes off right in front of his face and he’s completely fine
Edit: also ummmm you are a Last Crusade defender, a movie that is a billion times more ridiculous and less good than TDKR, your opinion doesn’t mean much in this situation
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, stoppit, you're making my sides split with laughter at the ridiculousness of your statements!! Keep this crap up, and people will start to think you're SERIOUS!! xD xD xD
Do you have anything to add to this discussion or are you essentially giving up?
shareIsn't he hilarious? He is so dumb you honestly feel bad for laughing lol.
shareSeriously - scroll up to see my retorts - the kid goes ballistic because he thinks this movie is Citizen Kane. I'm trying to keep it light and point out we're strangers on the internet and he's snapping and acting condescending and superior. It's a trademark of a massive inferiority complex.
shareNot snapping out or being condescending, you just can’t stand it that someone is debunking your poorly thought out premise.
Edit; you also committed a logical fallacy when you strawmanned me by saying I thought the movie was Citizen Kane, I said no such thing
Sure you are. Look at the rebuttals on this thread...we're all laughing at you and calling you silly. I mean, the fact you don't see it shows utter narcissism. People point out the flaws and all you do is dismiss them or wave 'hyperbole' and insinuate that we don't get the movie.
You did say that, didn't you? "Your complaints are evidence of nothing more than your inability to understand the movie..."
Regarding Citizen Kane, you did give this an A+, right? I mean, if you think it's a A+ you must think it's the best movie ever, right? This is your score.
I could respond to your excuses (not reasons) for my list of issues with the film, but you clearly show zero knowledge of investments/diversified portfolios (heck, even checking and savings accounts) or even how ConEd works! I mean, what's the point of arguing with someone who truly can't see past their own inflated sense of self-worth?
What utter narcissism? I literally did not even initiate a discussion on TDKR, that was all you, kid. You lost your shit because you realized that someone actually thought differently than you and your fragile little feelings just couldn’t handle it, you need help and by your own standard you are the “utter narcissist”. The fact that you think that someone having a different opinion than you constitutes “utter narcissism” is only ironically proving what an “utter narcissist” you are. Go see a therapist. They are paid to listen to your bullshit.
When I said that I was just being accurate, and your complaints do show that you don’t understand it. Not my fault the film went over your head.
It means I really like it, the ranking was my subjective opinion to begin with. Also there is a difference between what someone’s “favorite” movie is and what they think is the best. Plenty of people would give that POS Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade an A+ (it’s all over the board if you want proof), that doesn’t mean they think it’s better than Citizen Kane you idiot. There’s a difference between liking a film and thinking it is good, people love Adam Sandler movies , that doesn’t mean they think they are the best films ever made. I feel like I’m talking to a brick.
You won’t respond to my rebuttal because you know that I own you and that you have nothing intelligent to say, hence your little temper tantrum. We get it, you hate the movie, get over yourself, you aren’t that important. The way you are behaving is simply not normal.
Let me save you some time. These will be his defenses of the Dark Knight Rises. I will summarize his rebuttals.
A: You did not understand the film. If you understood it you would like it more.
B: Pay attention when watching Batman Begins or The Dark Knight next time.
C: It made a ton of money at the box office and is highly rated on imdb.
D: That is a nit pick, every movie has flaws
E: In my entire time on the internet I have never heard a legit complaint about TDKR. This one is my favorite because it implies that in order to have an opinion on the film you have get through him first. Such an arrogant entitled moron.
If this does not work he will put words in your mouth. He will cast generalizations onto you. He will say you are just a Nolan hater and that you think Bruce quit because of Rachel. It really is pathetic how he defends this film, it literally is like a religion to him. I understand liking it but why do you need to be blind to it's faults? I do not even hate the film I think it is a competent film but it has it's share of problems.
What's funny is I'm not even arguing with him. I simply put up my points for the film being poor and he's so conceited that he is certain I'm (well, actually, everyone else) is ignorant. He calls it his SUBJECTIVE opinion, then attempts to belitter anyone else who has a differing voice.
At first I assumed he was a troll, but he's embarrassing himself so much I can't even give him that much credit. He actually thinks he's 'winning' when we're all just waving off his nonsense retorts.
It goes back to the quote...
"Arguing with an internet dork is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over your pieces, crap on the board, and then strut around acting like he won."
1. The Dark Knight--10/10
2. Joker -9.5/10--(most won't count this as a Batman film but this movie does have Bruce Wayne in it so I'll count it)
3. Justice League Snyder Cut-8.5/10
4. Batman Begins--8.5/10
5.The Dark Knight Rises--8.3/10
6. Batman Returns--8/10
7. The Batman -7.5/10
8. Batman Forever--7.5/10
9. Batman--8.5/10
10. Batman V Superman DOJ:Ultimate Edition-6.5/10
11. Suicide Squad--6/10
12. Batman And Robin--5.5/10
13. Batman V Superman Dawn Of Justice(Theatrical Cut)--4/10
14. Justice League-1/10
Pretty good list. I preferred The Batman over Batman Returns, but generally I agree with most of your list. I definitely agree on number one! Dark Knight Rises will always be my favorite. I know a lot of people will disagree, but I love that movie.
shareMe too and to me it was the perfect conclusion. First time I saw it I so didn’t want it to end. Such an emotional send off and everything fell into place perfectly.
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