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another question for an Iranian / Farsi speaker


I found "A Separation" to be a very thought-provoking and well-made film. One theme running throughout is about the class differences between the two families. One family owns two cars and is clearly middle- to upper-middle class; the other family is working class and struggling. If this were a US film (I am American) I would almost certainly be able to tell the families apart by how they speak--a regional accent or dialect, vocabulary choices, etc. Since I don't speak Farsi, I'd like to know if you can tell the two families apart based on they way they speak? Are there other things you notice that set the two families apart within contemporary Iranian society, although they all belong to the same broader culture?
Thanks for sharing your insights!

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We do have many different dialect within the country. In this particular case there is no clear dialect difference between characters. all speak the way iranians do in the capital of Iran, Tehran.

HOWEVER, you can tell they belong to different classes by so many subtle references I am sure you have noticed. (none are language related) there is one you might have missed though:

I don't mean to be rude or anything and I have nothing against religion but they way the maid is covered is not how middle class women (most of them) would cover up. There are very religious rich women in Iran but they don't define the social class.

I personally believe your social class is reflected in the way you carry yourself, first and foremost. and that is very well explored in this movie.

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Thanks for sharing your insight! I did notice the more-religious clothing of the maid. The hijab worn by the middle-class women is common enough among Muslim women in the west that a lot of us don't find it particularly remarkable. But not many women wear the full black robe, although we do see it sometimes.

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I recently watched the movie and I agree with your statement of it being a thought-provoking movie. As someone who grew up in I can tell you a few point that puts a stronger emphasis on the differences in classes of the two families. The working class family is more religious, even though both families have religious beliefs the working class family ( especially the wife) seems to have religious practices as her way of life directing her every decision while this amount is drastically less in the mid-upper class family. (calling and asking for religious guidance, the more strict covering up and , the choice of words and religious references when arguing). The more obvious ones are matters of commute as you already pointed out, 2 cars vs public transportation and a motorcycle and the settings of the homes (which of course is apparent a more modern family in the upper class family vs a more traditional one who sit on the floor, ( sitting on the floor does not necessarily show lack of financial abilities but more of a cultural traditional way of life.) As for accents and dialects there is no apparent difference in accents but there is in word choices more obvious when arguing ,cursing , and a few terms when referring to the old man who has wet his pants ( the two families use different words to describe the same situation)

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awesome insight about the family sitting on the floor as a more conservative and traditional thing to do versus sitting on "regular" furniture. I'm learning a lot from this thread!

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I would say, yes. Usually the working class or the lower economic class live in the suburb of Tehran (I know Tehran better as I lived only there). They have a slightly different dialect. The choice of vocabulary is also a distinguishing factor along with how they dress. However, I didn't notice much dialect in the way the actors and actresses spoke in this movie.
The lower economic class are generally more religious, more conservative, more populated at suburbs and certain geographical regions of the city (more to the south of Tehran I would say). Generally hang out more with their neighbors and those of their neighborhood and generally own a motorcycle. The middle to upper class generally own a car, live in apartment complexes and might not know or interact much with their neighbors (I guess more of an urban life).

I think many of these differences are also true for other countries. I am also not claiming the things I said are based on any study or are fact.

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their accents are the same, but the choice of vocabulary is clearly different. especially hojat's.

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Does the city of Tehran have it's own Farsi accent? From what I hear, Iran's capital city is very ethnic diverse with many ethnic groups and languages spoken besides Farsi (Persian) which includes Azeri, Arab, Kurdish, Turkish, Pashtun, Afghan Dari, Tajik, and even small groups of African, Chinese, and south Asians.

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