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The 'List Cliches and Film Trope' Thread


Which cliches are present in the film? List and explain

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Agreed and also "The Great White Hope"

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The great white hope cliche is so bad, the guy is even named Hope. At least make it subtle...

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He has tattoos that say Fighter and Father, in case you hadn't realized he was a fighter AND and a father.

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The "Eye of the Tiger training montage" was one cliche...but hadForrest Whitaker instead of Carl Weathers as the ex boxer now conflicted ethnic trainer.
Surprised he wasn't chasing chickens or drinking raw eggs :)

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Homeless Dad - "I just want my kids back"

The setup with the wife saying how much money they're spending, the rolex's - to show the dumb audience that Billy is bad with money.

They could have made it more of a 'your money is all tied in investments at the moment' - I also thought that 50 Cent would be revealed to be the one screwing Billy financially, and then Billy would blackmail him into giving him enough for him and his daughter to live comfortably.

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Angry child saying it should have been the living parent who should have died instead of the dead parent.

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The Karate Kid "humbly starting at the bottom by cleaning" (in this case, toilets) tripe. I mean trope.

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The whole 'I don't wanna train you cause is dangerous to you' disguised as 'don't train profighters.'

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"I don't want to train you"
"I've changed"
"ok i'll train you now"

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I'm not entirely sure it's a trope, but I'm really sick of all of these sports movies having an emotional dimension.

Gridiron gang, The Blind Side, Warrior and now this they all try too hard to be sad and serious. Why can't movies be about sports and not be like that? Why can't it be funny? Even if serious works better, why not have a protagonist who doesn't give the "Look how miserable my life is. Pity me!" vibe?

These movies also sometimes try to add emotions at the expense of logic. Like in Warrior, I believe the lead had detached Tom Hardy's limb, while yelling "I love you" repeatedly. I'd have a hard time imagining a more pompous movie scene.

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He'd never had a proper boxing lesson, he just relied on raw talent, anger and bravery.

It was also in 'Days of Thunder' with Tom Cruise, turned out he'd never been trained in driving, he was just good at it.

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