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"Johanna Constantine" -oh give me a break.


Why cant hollywood respect the source material for once?

Well, at least she knows what gender she is.

Only seen 2 episodes, but overall it seems good. Just had to complain a little..

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They couldn't in this case because they don't have the rights to the character.
So it's best to think of her as another person entirely.

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Wow. Did not know that. I was wondering why they done that to the character when she was introduced. Makes sense.

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inb4 someone says "sHe'S iN ThE cOmiCs", which she was, as an ancestor to John if I recall correctly. This version of Johanna is in the modern day, and completely replaces John.

I like Jenna Coleman, but she's not John Constantine. I felt the same way when Keanu Reeves played him. They should've gotten someone like Johnny Lee Miller. Seriously, watch Trainspotting 2, he looks just like him, he would've been great in the role.

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"Well, at least she knows what gender she is."

^But she didn't know what gender she is, hence the predictable lesbian kiss.

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@Guitar King: Or we could look at it this way: John Constantine also liked kissing women, so the got that part right 😅

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Oh, so now all lesbians or bi sexual women don't know which gender they are??? WTF?

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Right, everybody knows lesbians are sexually confused and mentally ill.

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Quit crying.

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Thanks for your valueable contribution to the discussion.

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Unlike your thread whining about wymen

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Clearly you have gargled too much cum.

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Misogyny and homophobia. Man, you are a real catch.

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So disliking a female character is automaticlly misogyny?

And you wonder why no one can have a conversation on here.

misogyny
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noun
noun: misogyny

dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.


They haven't done any of those and so your statement is false.

Also. Are you assuming this persons gender? Are you a bigot?

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Complaining about female characters fits a profile.

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You're still gargling i see, and are now hypoxic from huffing jenkem between deeks.. I would complain equally if it was the other way around. For instance if death, delirum or despair was played by a man. So put a sock in your 'misoginy'-hole. Seeing everything as "misogynistic", "racist", "homophobic" and/or "transphobic" fits a profile.

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Complaining about female characters fits a profile.

In your head it does. In real life it doesn't

So by your won logic and replies you are not allowed to criticise ir say anything negative about a female character.

Simp and cuck alert everyone.

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Incel alert âš 

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And there it is. you are as bad as Keelai. You jump straight to the very end. It is very sad really and you wonder why you get called a troll.

What is that response based on? Nothing, you just think you are being clever. Should I inform you I have been married for 27 years and that I have 4 kids, twin boy and girl and other 2 girls. You won't believe me but you crack on if it makes your pathetic life happy. The way you simp to women is truely terrfying. DOes she let you outside if you are a good boy. Does she let you watch when she ios taking that BBC? I think so.

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Do you hid your online activity from your wife and children because you are scared if they found out how you really are they'll leave you? Because I could not imagine any woman being attracted to men like you both, let alone willing to have your children or 'breed' as you men call it.

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Do you hid your online activity from your wife and children because you are scared if they found out how you really are they'll leave you?

How so? because I confront weak indivuals who scream sexism when someone complains at a female character in a Tv Show. Me thinks you are the incel here. You have never been around a woman have you. Thought so.

If want to know she is less than 3 feet from me right now and is laughing at your comments. So again you believe what you want to believe if it makes you happy. I even showed her your comment and her first words were "what a dickhead"

Because I could not imagine any woman being attracted to men like you both

What men who are not cucks and happy seal clap whenever a woman says anything and simp for them at every opportunity. Like I said based on that you have never been with a woman. Woman like men not girly men like you. You Have no clue have you

You are genuinly a pathetic loser. You scream sexism and misogyny the very second someone criticises a woman. You are not clever enough to have a conversation and then when someone confronts you you cry victim. Sign of a weak, sad individual. Did your mum abuse you when you were little because you played with yourself.

News flash. They don't need your help and don't find white knights, cucks and simps attractive in anyway no matter what Tik Tok tells you.

You seem to have a very unhealthy need to defend woman at every chance. Why is that I wonder.

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Must be a Trump supporting family. Even Ben Shapiro can get a wife.

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Must be a Trump supporting family

Yes from England I voted for Trump. God you are an idiot. Is that the best you have got. Did I hurt your wittle feefees.

Even Ben Shapiro can get a wife

So me and him can do something you can't. Thank you for pointing that out. Cool.

What you got next. You are running out of buzzwords to use. Do you have an original thought in that minscule head of yours or do you just rinse and repeat what the media tells you.

Have you been brainswashed so much that you just parrot incel, racism, sexism, misogynistic at every opportunity no matter the discussion or reason.

Did you gender studies professor tell you were being oppressed by the evil white man and you will never amount to anything, sounds about right from what I can read.

I'll wait for you next low IQ response i'm sure it will be worth the wait.

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So you're English like this guy: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star

Got it. K, bye. Thanks for the lecture and your life story. Useful stuff.

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Yes i'm the same as a random Tik Toker i've never heard of. You got me. I stand by the idiot statement here. I did say you stay off Tik Tok, it isn't good for you.

So by that defintion you are the same as a random american violent misogynist. You seem to have many. Like really many.

So thats your comeback I waited 26 mins for a link to some random dude cos he is English. Wow. At least I was right about the low IQ response. IS that what you have been doing. Rent free comes to mind.

Thanks for the lecture

Someone doesn't know the meaning of yet another word. You called me a Trump supporter and I corrected you. No lecturing involved, infered or done. You really should look these words up before replying, just makes you look even more stupid which to be honest is really that not that hard to do. Can't get lower than a single IQ point.

For the love of god please go back to school or maybe you are still at school. Do you suffer from TDS. Me thinks you do.

You run along i'm sure your mum is getting ready to breastfeed you . So you better get out of your basement and go to her before she abuses you even more.

So what will you me in the next 30 mins. Another word you don't know the meaning. Another link which means literally zero and I won't click anyway.

Truth be told you a poor troll. No poor is not very accurate. You are a pathetic, unfunny, not very intelligent, insecure troll who lashes out at anyone who confronts there narrow view of the world.

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*farts*

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And there is the childish response from a child.

Have a good day and remember not to disobey your mum when she tells you need feeding. Nipples get very sore if she doesn't get the milk out.

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So much toxic masculinity. At least you didn't lecture me this time, dadda.

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Did gender studies professor tell you that

Didn't lecture you the first time. You still haven't looked up what that means have you.

When you pass puberty come back and talk until then stay in your basement until your mum calls

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you bore me. i'm putting you on ignore. go tell your fantasies to someone else, incel.

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The troll putting me on ignore, oh no how will I survive. At least I know for you to do that i'm living rent free in your head. Wonderful. Now that is a turnup for the books.

No I don't bore you. You are just not clever enough to actually think of anything. You have ran out of your ideolog buzzwords ans so you are stumped. You don't have an original thought in that tiny head of yours.

I genuinely pity you. You talk like you have on hear in the real world and you will get a rude awakening. I will just laugh though because you deserve it. You are an unpleasant person who doesn't have a single fiend and has never known any contact with a woman except his mum but he calls others an incel. Oh the irony.

incel.

Another word you don't know the meaning of. You seem to have many. A married incel. Yeh sure, why not, crack on.

You are funny I will give you taht. Not HaHa funny but pathetic funny

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He's an american though

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Just go back to star trek the original... oof they kissed in that, kirk was a real man but uhhuh!

Don't say no baby, I've my phaser set on stunning.

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I don’t care about the source material and I love it so far.

I hope to see more of Clara Oswald … she does a great Constantine (I know, I’m biased … )

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Im guessing you dont know the source material then. Thats ok. Im not saying the series isnt good (because it is) or that Clara Oswald playing miss Constantine isnt doing a good job (because she is), but as a fan of the sandman universe since the early nineties - i wish they would respect the source material more.

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It was good for 5 episodes.

Is the story arc of the last 5 episodes in the source?

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I thought this was a turning point but it drives my mind, I just can't get I to it

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To be fair. It's not hollywood who made this show. And the creator of the source materials is the one who changed certain characters. So your complaint should be taken with the creator of The Sandman graphic novels, Neil Gaiman. Who based her on the original Lady Johanna Constantine the first ancestor of that line.

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It honestly bothered me more that she was well put-together, wearing a slick, all-white ensemble without stains, blemishes, or tears. Where's your unknown stain-covered trenchcoat, Joanna?

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