basic error in Jeager design concept

Yeah I wonder if the remote navigation and remote communication technology was as good enough and practical enough (like those of drones) back when the robots shows become popular in Japan/USA back in 70's, many inquisitive kids would've questioned the reasonableness of forcing pilots into robots to navigate and before long, get them killed. They probably would've yelled at each other that it's ridiculous (kids wouldn't understand the dramatic necessity of the characters risking their lives at the cost of realism and practicality). It's funny to think about that.

Also hilarious to read people getting prickly about the technology of transmitting enough remote data fast enough not feasible. Yeah because everything else in this movie is completely feasible and YOU KNOW the technology of remote data transmission in the movie would be EXACTLY how it is now in real life. That's ONE THING that's exactly same as in the contemporary real-life technology. Yeah OK. Assuming that ridiculous assumption, if the current drone navigation machine can transmit data precise and fast enough to navigate a drone that can fly as fast as Mach 5+, I say that's good enough to navigate a robot remotely (especially if they only have to navigate it in a close range like in the movie).

Anyway, even if that remote navigation technology would be ONLY close to perfect and NOT 100% perfect, there is NO WAY the military would've forced pilots into robots to win a tiny tiny edge at a battle (and likely lose those pilots before several battles). The notion is just ridiculous. If anything, getting rocked around inside those robots would severely hinder the precision of their navigation (that would be much bigger hindrance to win a battle over whatever the little shortcoming of the remote navigation technology).

So I read the first couple of posts and the rest turned into white noise abour bandwidth, drones, and driverless cars.

Jeezus.

We already have r/c cars and planes that can be basically controlled with a handheld unit with two joysticks. But look what it takes to control existing robots with two arms and two legs (flexion and extension, abduction and adduction, elevation and depression, and rotation), and compare that to a r/c controller for a car or plane. That argument is stupid, so just stop.

The title of the thread is "basic error in Jeager design concept". If you're going to look for a basic error in design, you look to the vulnerabilities. What did every encounter that ended badly for the humans have in common? What vulnerability was exploited by the big frakkin' monsters?

Articulated extremities.

Every time a big frakkin' robot was made vulnerable it was because a big frakkin' monster either latched onto an arm (or two), or used an articulation in said arm as a weakness.

That's how to discern a basic design flaw. And this is how to overcome the design flaw: using existing deep-water drilling technology in conjunction with existing submersible rig technology, build a big honkin' wood chipper, float it out and land it over the rift. Big frakkin' monster swims up the tube and grrrrrrinnnndddd- Fargo-tized big frakkin' monster. Next. Keep moving, nothing to see here.

Of course, who's gonna shell out a double sawbuck for that? I'd rather see big frakkin' robots. With people inside driving them. Inside the big frakkin' robot head, not the chest cavity, where the deadly reactor is. Moron. You know who you are.

And op- you're a ridiculous plot hole.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

The Jaegers operate the way they do for one simple reason:

The writers thought it would be cool to put human pilots inside the giant robots, and to create tension and moments for character development, they invented some mumbo-jumbo about "neural loads" that can't be handled by individual human brains, so the Jaegers need two pilots.

There's really no technical reason at all given, and the movie doesn't require one.

To quote the first 'Iron Man' film,
Nothing can trump a pilot's instinct, a pilot's intuition.
Yes, we can have them be robots that do their own thing, or we can have human pilots who have reflexes and experiences that can help them in combat.

Have you ever tried to play an online player vs player game, that is reflex oriented, with half a second of server lag? People with lag are at a huge disadvantage against those who are not.

And it's not a plot hole.

You have to suspend a certain about of believability to enjoy a film like this. The whole premise is simply to create a scenario in which giant robots are required to fight giant monsters. Yet we see these monsters succumbing to very unsophisticated attacks: they can be burned, frozen, and cut with regular metal. If that's so, then none of these giant robots are needed at all. These monsters could be dispatched at long distance with conventional weapons. If it can be burned, punched, frozen, or cut and killed, then typical arms could take them down given enough firepower concentrated on them at once.

Besides, a giant two-legged robot is inherently unstable, generally speaking. A different robot design would be developed that wouldn't be knocked over quite so easily.

So just quit worrying about it and watch it for what it is: a popcorn movie.

Well I would put it more like this, why bother building Jägers, when they know exactly where and pretty much when they will appear, why not build a laser grid just above the Bridge "Dimensional hole" or whatever put up a sattelite that shoots laser or anything that does damage, since the jägers has some kind of lightning cannon, they cant get out of the whole since they are boxed in. Take their time until they know what to do as a permanent solution? No people ever have to die. Sure jägers has to be built as a first solution until they find the bridge.

And building a wall against those creatures makes no sense, havent they seen what they can do? even for the level 1 kaiju they got claws and can jump very high, and easily climb something as metal, I mean anything they can puncture thru they can climb over, silly idea really but then again that is probably what idiotic governments would do today.

My answer is - why don't you want human pilot inside? After all, when the whole world is threatened, the lives of 2 pilots, 20 pilots... are not THAT valuable. When you have a jaeger which costs tens of billions or even hundreds of billions to make (very reasonable price if you consider how much it costs to build an advanced fighter), what's the value of 2 or more lives... you will want the best interface for the best pilots who are on hand to react to any extraordinary situation!

Show me the holes!