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Detta calls Roland an "Uncle Tom". Problem Solved.


I'm not a fan of the casting either, but whats done is done. They can still maintain Detta's hatred for Roland by making her think he is "selling out" to the white man (Eddie) and they're plotting to rape and kill her.
She is delusional. And some people have hatred that is just as strong if not stronger for people they consider "traitors" to their race.

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They can still maintain Detta's hatred for Roland by making her think he is "selling out" to the white man (Eddie) and they're plotting to rape and kill her.
She is delusional. And some people have hatred that is just as strong if not stronger for people they consider "traitors" to their race.

Like.

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it just seems like a waste of time to change a perfect story to push someone's agenda.

The main agenda of production companies has always been to make money.

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Wait. So... at what point are the novels NOT about the tower? Is the overall story in the film still about a tower that holds all universes together in threat of falling? Is it still a quest to save said tower? Sounds like The Dark Tower to me....

Grant discovered raptor eggs in Jurassic Park

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Yes, this is a good way around it.

At the end of the day, as much as the casting of Elba departs from the book, at least having a bankable star means the film should do well even with non fans of the books.
No one batted an eyelid when Javier Bardem was mooted, and Roland being Latin would be no less a departure than him being black.

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No one batted an eyelid when Javier Bardem was mooted, and Roland being Latin would be no less a departure than him being black.
Exactly!

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No one batted an eyelid when Javier Bardem was mooted

The hell they didn't. I spent at least as much time defending Bardem on these boards as I do Elba.

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The hell they didn't. I spent at least as much time defending Bardem on these boards as I do Elba.
I'm pretty sure he's talking specifically in terms of race and/or skin color. I was on the boards back when Javier Bardem was up for Roland, and I did see numerous complaints about him in the role, mainly concerning him not looking like Clint Eastwood (obviously), his body type, his height, and his accent. However, I don't recall coming across anyone complaining about his skin color or him being "the wrong race," or the current go-to explanation, his consideration for the role being the result of a "PC agenda" or "SJWs" - all of which I've seen as complaints when it comes to Elba.

Now to be fair, I do realize that just because I didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen, but I personally don't remember coming across anywhere near this kind of pushback when Bardem was up for the role.

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I've been saying this repeatedly for months now. It's not even a difficult or drastic change to make, which makes me wonder why this idea hasn't occurred to a lot of fans already. And most importantly, it keeps Susannah's character and her conflict with Roland (a different kind of racial tension, but racial tension nonetheless) in tact.

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Yeah and what does it matter. The only one that could really play Roland from the books was Clint Eastwood but his time has passed. I think this dude looks pretty right for the role!

/Damien

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I am sure this is exactly what the film will do and its absolutely, undeniably, completely weak and lame.

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Can't she just call him a plain old "mofo" instead of honky "mofo".

Get someone who can deliver an uncensored "mofo" properly, you won't even miss the honky part.

...Madness takes its toll...

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They could also cast Cloris Leachman as Susannah. That way, when she turns to Odetta, she becomes a racist old lady that drops N-bombs every chance she gets. It makes perfect sense and they would only have to change the script a little bit!

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