Just post whether you think it's a hoax (MBW was performing and making deliberately bad art) or not (MBW's art just happened to be that bad since he has bad taste), and your age if you feel like submitting it.
Let's not argue, just say where you stand. See RobertDeNiro's post for a "how not to post" example.
I say hoax - I'm 31
HAIL TO THE CHIMP! http://i35.tinypic.com/1zoxa4m.gifshare
I think it was a hoax. However, it doesn't really matter. Even if everything was portrayed truthfully in the film MBW is still a "creation" of Banksy. Banksy is the only reason anyone cares about MBW.
shareHoax -- just think about who Banksy is and what he represents
Would he make a simple documentary about a boring and idiotic frenchman, without any hidden, subversive element to it ? Because that's what this film is, if you don't read between the lines.
He is much more clever than that.
I'm embarrassed for you guys.
Banksy is loving all the unintentional hoax hype.
It's hoax followers like you guys that make this such a powerful film, otherwise it would just be a kickass documentary.
Nasdaq is a moron, this would not be a "simple documentary" whether there was a hoax or not, it's a GREAT documentary by any standards. Whether MBW is real or not, he is not "boring and idiotic", he is the OPPOSITE of the two. He is exciting, eccentric and brilliant. You really couldn't have skewed your analogy any farther in favor of your own opinion. It's proof in my mind you have no idea what you are on about.
This is a documentary SO powerful it makes you think, and in some cases assume. I was on your side from the beginning, "no way this is real", but all it takes is some searching and you will see this is all real :)
Again, i'm just embarrassed for anyone unwilling to look into it themselves or ignore the evidence.
so you took me off ignore, you joker , hahaha!!
shareIn another thread you state that this movie is nothing without its ending, yet you clearly contradict yourself here by saying it was a great documentary because of MBW
Which one is it? Also, where is this so called evidence you have found while searching?
I think it was real up until the end. I think Thierry was a real guy that filmed incessantly. I think he befriended street artists and then eventually befriended Banksy. But then later they came up with an idea to put on a hoax art show which was about the last 1/3 of the film.
I didn't get the impression that Thierry was an idiot until the end and I didn't get the impression that Banksy would make fun of him until the end. The last 1/3 of the film felt really different from the rest.
i agree with above poster, everything was real until the Life Remote Control part..which is blatantly satire...I find it hard to believe that MBW would turn his back on good friends like Fairy and Banksy, also for the fact that Banksy agrees to promote him without every having even seen his work is very fishy to me.
shareIf this documentary is a hoax, then Banksy has made the biggest and loudest "street art" ever (Oscar gala is broadcasted worldwide).
Hoax or not, IMO it documented the street art movement very clever way and to me it was a real documentary.
I think you have to break the film into two parts. The first half is showing what street art is all about and how they are making art for arts sake for the world to view. Then once it hit mainstream and people began to pay ridiculous prices for this stuff it went against everything street art stood for. It should be for everyone to enjoy and look at and not stuffed into some rich persons closet. So I think Mr. Brainwash is a hoax if not banksy himself, thumbing their noses at the art world and the idea of celebrity in itself. Showing how people will pay for garbage if they are told it is gold.
shareAgreed. Much, if not all is a hoax. But a very entertaining one. And I actually love most of Mr. Brainwash's art. (that monster made of working TV sets was cool). Not that I'd pay anything for them ; but I'd go see a show.
I had a lot of trouble believing Mr. Brainwash was able to raise the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars needed to rent the space and create all that art and promote the show so successfully as the owner of a friggn' thrift store. Sheesh, c'mon. And at the end his tolerant wife and mother of his 5 kids becomes a videographer?
LMAO...set up for Exit Through The Gift Shop, part 2?
"Even more phoney than part 1. See it!!!!!"
"owner of a friggn' thrift store."
Again, you're mischaracterizing the truth. Theirry owned a trendy clothing store and had other business interests. He was quite well off, which allowed him the freedom to pursue his obsessions. Also, he took out a mortgage on his house to help pay for the event.
First off, this is a work of genius, hoax of not
But here`s my best guess
I think everyone up until the screening of Life Remote Control is 100% real. Thierry`s history has been well covered, there`s more than enough people who`ve seen him that have said yes, this guy is just that weird and half mentally challenged. He met the street artists and filmed them for some time. Met Banksy, etc.
IMO when Banksy became a huge financial and gallery success after his first show, he got cynical about the art world. He decided to troll them. Everything after the Life Remote Control screening smells fishy to me. Banksy starts making cracks at Thierry, he promotes the art without seeing it, the whole I`m making a film about Thierry idea just doesn`t hold up as well if he meant to do it still as a friend and not to insult him. Etc. etc.
What I think followed is one of two things
Scenario A) - Banksy (possibly with Fairy, I`m not sure of his involvement) saw Thierry`s art and saw how it was exactly the hack, *beep* imitation crap that would get eaten up if the hype was there enough. So they got their people to go worth with Thierry and make a huge show. They used their connections and name to get the hype rolling. Banksy was just a complete genius to know Thierry would blow up as big as him. In this scenario, Thierry`s side is 100% real. He is a half retarded hack who right now thinks the reason everyone buys his stuff is by being a genius. Banksy made Thierry the hack and made the blow-up. It`s an ultimate troll on everyone, an ultimate ether on the art world, and the end result was intentional, but it wasn`t a `hoax`
Scenario B) - Everything above is true except Thierry is in on it and is just rolling with his character and personality (much of it true, from before). He realizes his art is crap, and did it intentionally. Remember Thierry had just spent half a decade being around street artists. He could have legitimate taste enough to know his work was derivative. He makes a lot of money as is so why not. In this case I still wouldnt call it a complete hoax. I would call it Thierry and Banksy trolling the art world and making a statement together. Thierry in this case is just being himself, but knows he is trolling the art world
I`m leaning towards Scenario A. I think both scenarios would be genius in a way though.
Based on the producers interview, everything was incidental. They were hired by Banksy to create a street art film and use Thierry as the object to introduce the public to the street art world because of his friendly personality. However, Thierry took Banksy's intentions for him too far and incidentally made himself a satire, or comical figure in the film.
i dont know wherether its a hoax or not (by your definition, by mine its not, but its far from yours) but i hope its not.
i hope that he was that bad and that people paid so much money for bad stuff. you know why? because people who pay thousands because of hype deserve to loose their money.
Im 21.
Banksey was the only person in the movie who i could have called "an artist".
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