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What happened to Black Sitcoms.............. ............


WHERE HAVE THE BLACK SITCOMS GONE?
posted by LJ Knight on January 21st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Take a journey with me. Lets go way back. I’m talking more than 10 years. I can recall a time when I was actually excited for 7 o’clock on a week night because I knew that my favorite Black shows would be coming on. Shows like A Different World, The Cosby Show, Living Single, Martin, Family Matters, Fresh Prince Of Bel Aire, The Parent Hood , Roc and so on. Then, nothing compared to African American Entertainment. The thirty minutes (minus commercials) of visual pleasure that they gave me stays with me to this day. In fact thinking of these shows puts a smile on my face and I still become excited when I catch reruns. These shows were part of the 90’s movement that displayed successful African Americans living their lives. They gave us a subculture that installed in us that Black love existed, Black people were business minded and that it was possible for you to be from the hood and still be successful without “selling out”. For some who never saw that lifestyle first hand in their own lives likes myself they gave me something to aspire to. They confirmed the complexities that sometimes accompanies being an African American. The dualities that many of us go through in our career versus our home life. Most importantly, they were FUNNY. They were funny without having the stereotypical coon images or having constant slap hi jinx from the African American cast. No there was no need for the Black faced negro shucking and jiving his way to higher ratings while popping gum. They kept it real AND kept it balanced.

I am disappointed in African American television today because it glorifies the same stereotypes that we have tried for years to fight. There is no balance within the characters. They are usually extremely ghetto or the polar opposite. In fact, I would go as far as to say that there isn’t any quality African American programming currently on TV. The new wave of reality shows and newly aired shows like TV One’s Love That Girl for instance have the same simple stereotypical characters. Therefore they do not count as far as quality Black programming. For instance the lead characters brother in Love That Girl wants to be a stand up comic but refuses to work meanwhile to support himself. Instead he slums off his newly Real Estate licensed sister. Another example would be the receptionist at the Father’s Real Estate Office who can never seem to utter a sentence without chewing gum and doing some type of hand or neck motion to emphasize her point. As far as reality show madness, VH1 takes the cake with their array of African American reality series which displays images like Black women fighting over some washed up African American talent who is “looking for love”. Sure….. Or my newly favorite annoyance! The new Fantasia Barrino reality series where.. guess what.. she too has a family who refuses to work and would rather slum off her. More specifically her big, grown, ashy brother who seems to be floating through life without a care in the world, expecting her to financially support him, while Fantasia struggles to revive her singing career and care for her own child. Seeing previews for that show makes me quiver with annoyance inside out every time. Every time.

The other shows that reach popularity on TV that feature African Americans are other reality series like Keyshia Cole’s The Way It Is. I did not have too much of a problem with Keyshia’s behavior on the show but her family! Wow. If there was a casting for stereotypical ghetto people to be put on blast they would meet the criteria. I never even bothered to watch a full episode of the Frankie And Neffie reality show. Nope, that madness was not going to be a part of my reality. Nor was the drama filled show that is Real Housewives Of ATL. Helping to facilitate the stereotype that Black women are catty and cannot play nice together.

To be honest, I am not even upset with Keyshia Cole or her family. They are just being themselves and collecting a check for their foolery. I am more upset with the networks who are choosing to portray such low quality images of African Americans. It would be different if we already had primarily African Americans shows that displayed us in a more positive light but we don’t. Therefore there is no balance. Therein lies the problem.

The handful of recent shows that did show African Americans in a positive light and with characteristic balance, meaning they were not over the top ghetto or so engulfed in the 90210 lifestyle that the average middle class African American could not relate to the characters were quickly taken off the air. Or they were only allowed a few seasons and abruptly ended. Think the Girlfriends and The Game, (I cannot be the only one who felt that Girlfriends did not receive a proper series finale).

The truth of the matter is that we are lacking in Black entertainment television so when there is a new show I immediately become excited and want to give it a fair shot. So far, I continue to be disappointed and have to turn to box sets of DVD’s of old shows or searches online for my quality African American programming. No not everyone is a “high class negro” but not everyone is on the corner shooting dice either. Frankly, I really do not want to see either. Where is the balance I ask you! Where?

They say that the media responds to what we demand and to what we express the need for. If that is the case then I am insulted at the notion that the networks feel that there is not a demand for quality African American programming. Either that or they feel that it will not be successful, so they do not attempt to put anything close to a positive Black image on prime-time. It is as if the only way we can secure a show is if we are shucking and jiving. Shuck or jive or fear cancellation. Someone needs to remind them that the African American audience is a mosaic of individuals who yearn to see shows that have more complex topics than what a reality series for a has been celebrity, an R and B singers family or a rappers baby moma can provide.

Oh Well, there are always reruns…..

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Good post, and great points being addressed.

Back around the fall of 2004, then-UPN had a pretty decent Monday night lineup. There was "Girlfriends", "Half & Half", "One on One", and one called "The Second Time Around" with Boris Kodjoe and Nicole Ari Parker.

Wasn't a big "One on One" fan, but to be quite honest, those four shows were a hell of a lot better than what was being offered on the main networks. They were pretty well-written, well-acted, and didn't give in to the stereotypes. They featured normal everyday people of color doing well for themselves, but I guess people don't want to see that (enter "Real Housewives" and other stuff like that). I was actually disappointed that "Second Time Around" didn't last longer, and equally disappointed that "Half & Half" got canceled for the CW merger.

"Everybody Loves Chris" had me cracking up in the first season, but I got kinda tired of him becoming a punching bag in every single episode. It was like watching a real-life Charlie Brown cartoon and got kinda depressing lol...


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the boondocks was funny as hell...i hve all 3 seasons...some of the best ones are the one on bet, uncle ruckus, return of the king... and r kelly i really wish they did another season...

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I think Black folks need to honestly demand better shows and be more vocal about it. Also stop encouraging the success of terrible White sitcoms as an alternative. Seriously, also the Black folks behind these shows should demand better writers and stop producing crap thats funny because they assume its what all Black folks collectively think is funny. I only wish I could see another series more along the lines of Fresh Prince, Cosby, or maybe even Malcom and Eddie, or just something thats not so damned formulaic.

Its a crying shame that networks these days will try any retread of "Friends", "Seinfeld" and generally any 'White' sitcom but soon as a Black sitcom is tried and dosent get the chance to work, then its considered a failure from inception.

I just watched the episode with Martin Lawrence and got very mad that this is the state of Black sitcoms on television today. Its bad enough the big networks wont even back a series with Black leads but when its on a network geared toward Black folks, its even worse.

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The writing/jokes for this show just seem so stale. I happened to turn pass the show the other day and the brother made a joke about the flamboyant neighbor; Something a long the lines of Lady GaGa only he called him "Lady Gay-Guy," Tatiyana's character was hula-hooping, he claimed it looked like she was "hula-humpin'." I really wonder who comes up with a lot of their material... boy I miss when I use to be able to watch Roc reruns and other shows on TVOne lol.

But I agree, more people should start demanding more from these shows. I had a person get upset with me because I'm not a fan Tyler Perry's shows and movies and telling me how I need to support my people. For some black people I think they have the mentality that you should support ALL things black (movies, tv, directors, etc). To a certain degree i understand , but if the product they're putting out there is not that great I don't think I should have to support just because of my skin.

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It really sucks that "Everybody Hates Chris" was the LAST good 'black' sitcom. Now theres none on the air at all. A damn shame really.

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I think the main problem with a lot of our sitcoms is the lack of quality that goes into these shows. If we had bigger budgets and better writers, I think our shows would be great. Its also sad, because Hollywood isn't even trying to promote our shows the way they could be promoted. I also wish there were more channels with shows for us and about us. I commend TVOne for giving us a voice. BET used to be great back when it first started until the mid 2000's. But now, I think its awful. The Latinos and Asians have several different channels showing different sides of life for them and where they can show their creativity and express their voice. The problem with a lot of our shows isn't the actors, but the material they have to work with.

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Great topic and yet so true. I didn't read everyone post but I can say I agree with most of all of you.


Black sitcoms have completely changed and I hate that. I think someone mentioned Tyler Perry sitcoms House of Payne, Meet The Browns, and now he has a new one. I watch House of Payne every now and then but its like something is missing the storyline is sometimes repetivie like they don't know what direction they want to go with the show. Then on Meet The Browns I'll watch the show for Mr. Brown he is hillarious other than that the rest of the cast isn't that funny to me and it just seem fake. Then Tyler Perry new sitcom....I think it's called "for better of for worse" you have those two couples from Why Did I Get Married and that is all just more fighting and drama and of course all of the black females in that show is in fancy dresses with heels and skinny as ever with weave down their backs living a fancy rich lifestyle and just fighting.


70's-90's and maybe some shows from in the early 00's had the best sitcoms. That's So Raven is a great black sitcom and then Everybody Hates Chris or My Wife & Kids was the last great black sitcom on TV.

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HAHA that was funny, but true about the skinny women in fancy dresses w/ long weave down their backs.

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Keyword....BLACK!

We don't like to see the "ghetto jive-time black faced negro" on-screen, but let's face it, most fiction is based off reality. We make up 13% of the population and a big part of THAT percentage is indeed the ghetto, welfare, jailbird crowd. Therefore, these are the people a lot of these tv shows (black) are based on. It works the same with comedians. In order for the black comic to make the black crowd laugh, he/she tells the NEGATIVE joke about blacks. I mean, what's funny about imitating a Harvard educated, Dockers pants wearing, martini pool-side drinking, 4.0 GPA having BLACK GUY??? No comic describes blacks that way. No...it's always the negative that wins over. Imitating an uneducated Buck Wheat like character is always seen as more "funny" than imitating educated Obama type of guy. BUT...I will also agree with you that "coon" is played out. Tyler Perry's House Of Payne failed miserably at the whole family routine.

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That's just laziness. Even when (good) white sitcoms do low-class stereotypes, like the white trash in "Raising Hope" they don't resort to making caricatures out of stereotypes. There is no reason black sitcoms can't write their characters with compassion. JJ on Good Times was a clown, but he was still a person not just a caricature.

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I agree. I think their scared to write out of the box because they think they might be "Selling out". But the truth is Black people aren't all the same and the world has changed from 20 years ago.

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I agree with all of that shows you mentioned! They were a classic. The shows that they have out now is just plain UNFUNNY and trashy. I swear everything went down hill as soon as the 2000s came rolling in.

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