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What happened to Black Sitcoms.............. ............


WHERE HAVE THE BLACK SITCOMS GONE?
posted by LJ Knight on January 21st, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Take a journey with me. Lets go way back. I’m talking more than 10 years. I can recall a time when I was actually excited for 7 o’clock on a week night because I knew that my favorite Black shows would be coming on. Shows like A Different World, The Cosby Show, Living Single, Martin, Family Matters, Fresh Prince Of Bel Aire, The Parent Hood , Roc and so on. Then, nothing compared to African American Entertainment. The thirty minutes (minus commercials) of visual pleasure that they gave me stays with me to this day. In fact thinking of these shows puts a smile on my face and I still become excited when I catch reruns. These shows were part of the 90’s movement that displayed successful African Americans living their lives. They gave us a subculture that installed in us that Black love existed, Black people were business minded and that it was possible for you to be from the hood and still be successful without “selling out”. For some who never saw that lifestyle first hand in their own lives likes myself they gave me something to aspire to. They confirmed the complexities that sometimes accompanies being an African American. The dualities that many of us go through in our career versus our home life. Most importantly, they were FUNNY. They were funny without having the stereotypical coon images or having constant slap hi jinx from the African American cast. No there was no need for the Black faced negro shucking and jiving his way to higher ratings while popping gum. They kept it real AND kept it balanced.

I am disappointed in African American television today because it glorifies the same stereotypes that we have tried for years to fight. There is no balance within the characters. They are usually extremely ghetto or the polar opposite. In fact, I would go as far as to say that there isn’t any quality African American programming currently on TV. The new wave of reality shows and newly aired shows like TV One’s Love That Girl for instance have the same simple stereotypical characters. Therefore they do not count as far as quality Black programming. For instance the lead characters brother in Love That Girl wants to be a stand up comic but refuses to work meanwhile to support himself. Instead he slums off his newly Real Estate licensed sister. Another example would be the receptionist at the Father’s Real Estate Office who can never seem to utter a sentence without chewing gum and doing some type of hand or neck motion to emphasize her point. As far as reality show madness, VH1 takes the cake with their array of African American reality series which displays images like Black women fighting over some washed up African American talent who is “looking for love”. Sure….. Or my newly favorite annoyance! The new Fantasia Barrino reality series where.. guess what.. she too has a family who refuses to work and would rather slum off her. More specifically her big, grown, ashy brother who seems to be floating through life without a care in the world, expecting her to financially support him, while Fantasia struggles to revive her singing career and care for her own child. Seeing previews for that show makes me quiver with annoyance inside out every time. Every time.

The other shows that reach popularity on TV that feature African Americans are other reality series like Keyshia Cole’s The Way It Is. I did not have too much of a problem with Keyshia’s behavior on the show but her family! Wow. If there was a casting for stereotypical ghetto people to be put on blast they would meet the criteria. I never even bothered to watch a full episode of the Frankie And Neffie reality show. Nope, that madness was not going to be a part of my reality. Nor was the drama filled show that is Real Housewives Of ATL. Helping to facilitate the stereotype that Black women are catty and cannot play nice together.

To be honest, I am not even upset with Keyshia Cole or her family. They are just being themselves and collecting a check for their foolery. I am more upset with the networks who are choosing to portray such low quality images of African Americans. It would be different if we already had primarily African Americans shows that displayed us in a more positive light but we don’t. Therefore there is no balance. Therein lies the problem.

The handful of recent shows that did show African Americans in a positive light and with characteristic balance, meaning they were not over the top ghetto or so engulfed in the 90210 lifestyle that the average middle class African American could not relate to the characters were quickly taken off the air. Or they were only allowed a few seasons and abruptly ended. Think the Girlfriends and The Game, (I cannot be the only one who felt that Girlfriends did not receive a proper series finale).

The truth of the matter is that we are lacking in Black entertainment television so when there is a new show I immediately become excited and want to give it a fair shot. So far, I continue to be disappointed and have to turn to box sets of DVD’s of old shows or searches online for my quality African American programming. No not everyone is a “high class negro” but not everyone is on the corner shooting dice either. Frankly, I really do not want to see either. Where is the balance I ask you! Where?

They say that the media responds to what we demand and to what we express the need for. If that is the case then I am insulted at the notion that the networks feel that there is not a demand for quality African American programming. Either that or they feel that it will not be successful, so they do not attempt to put anything close to a positive Black image on prime-time. It is as if the only way we can secure a show is if we are shucking and jiving. Shuck or jive or fear cancellation. Someone needs to remind them that the African American audience is a mosaic of individuals who yearn to see shows that have more complex topics than what a reality series for a has been celebrity, an R and B singers family or a rappers baby moma can provide.

Oh Well, there are always reruns…..

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I agree with you.I just realized with the cancellation of Everybody Hates Chris last year, this is the first time in about 37 years that there hasn't been a popular/successful black sitcom on the air.

1972-1977 Sanford and Son
1974-1979 Good Times
1975-1985 The Jeffersons
1976-1979 What's Happening!!
1984-1992 The Cosby Show
1985-1990 227
1985-1988 What's Happening Now!!
1986-1991 Amen
1987-1993 A Different World
1989-1997 Family Matters
1990-1996 The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
1991-1994 Roc
1992-1997 Hangin' with Mr. Cooper
1992-1997 Martin
1993-1998 Living Single
1994-1999 Sister, Sister
1996-2001 Moesha
1999-2004 The Parkers
2000-2008 Girlfriends
2001-2006 The Bernie Mac Show
2005-2009 Everybody Hates Chris

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I agree with this

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You can see that it started going downhill in 1999 and briefly returned in 2005.

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going downhill? a prime example would be "House of Payne",and the ignorant as hell "Meet The Browns".

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I love your list. I loved all those shows. I didn't care for the Parkers that much but I still watched it. I don't know whats going on with our television shows. It's so funny that you would write that list, because I'd watch ANY of them over whats on tv now. I've probably seen every episode of the Cosby show 100x but I still have it on DVR! LOL. it's on dvr and i watch every episode like i've never seen them before because i love the show so much. its so refreshing. and then we got house of payne and meet the browns! wtf!!

I don't watch the Paynes anymore although I liked it way more than I like Meet the Browns, but I still try to watch meet the browns. I can do about 10 minutes until i have to turn it off.


This is a good board.


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Sitcoms in general have suffered and black sitcoms have taken the hardest hit. Years ago, I think the focus was just on making good sitcoms with black casts, it wasn't about creating stereotypical nonsense. If Martin Lawrence wanted to back a sitcom, I think he should have picked one with good script, this show is poorly written.

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What happened to black sitcoms is that most of them were not original. They followed the same story lines that every sitcom does ad nauseum. Take a look at the shows on the now defunct UPN and WB(they merged). Every sitcom except for Girlfriends was formulaic. Shows like Moesha, The Wayans Brothers, All of Us, Love that Gril! and Sparks are just a few that follow these formulas that are tired. They all have a black man on them that is very oversexed, runs around screwing everyone. And that oversexed character has one girl that likes him but he won't touch her. Then as the story moves on, this oversexed guy at one point finally hooks up with the girl who likes him. It's like he's blessing her or something by having sex with her. There are other formulaic things that I won't go into but you can figure them out if you've seen enough black sitcoms.

"Love that Girl!" has a guy on it that plays the brother that is an embarrassment to all black people. He's a baffoon-coon much like you see in a minstrel show. He can't keep it in his pants and he's a selfish scumbag. This is why after I saw a couple of episodes of the show I quit watching. Ali is a great actress but even she can't save this.

We need more good shows like Girlfriends, Everybody Hates Chris, Sister Sister, The Steve Harvey Show, The Parenthood and My Wife and Kids. These shows were formulaic to certain point but they were much better than the rest of the pack.

Too answer your question. The reason there are so few black sitcoms is people want bonehead TV. That means reality shows. People have boring lives so they want to watch the private lives of other real people. They love to watch them fight and screw and drink. This is why "The Jersey Shore" is so popular. It's a group of very stupid people who drink and screw and fight all day but hey they look good! Shows like American Idol were so popular because people waited to see crazy people and Simon crush their dreams while Paula just loved everyone. They want conflict. The advertisers are going to produce shows not based on how good they are but how many people watch. So you see sitcoms becoming scarce and more drama and reality.

Rayvyn

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they all disappeared when upn merged w/ the cw. Now that dawn ostroff is leaving the cw, i hope vp president traci blackwell takes over and put us back on. The only sitcom i watch is The Game besides reruns of past sitcoms

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Good points. Are these your thoughts, who is LJ Knight?
This sentence sums it up best :
No not everyone is a “high class negro” but not everyone is on the corner shooting dice either. Frankly, I really do not want to see either. Where is the balance I ask you! Where?
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Good Post OP

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TheRe is a show on Nbc called parenthood. And it is the most boring thing you can watch. But it shows a different side of white people. Just white people hanging with their family and no one is a fool. I wish they could just have a boring show about black people. I'm black and my family life was drama free. We weren't rich. We weren't poor. We had respect and were not loud. Nothing upsets me more than when I hear a loud obnoxious black person say. You know how we do. No. No I don't.

Also let's take it easy with The Parkers being quality entertainment.

And why are the browns on television. Remember the scene in the movie at the table when the son says his dad was a pimp and went on to discribe each hos talent. And they asked what about mama. His reponse. Mama was nasty ho. This passes for funnny? Your daddy is a pimp and your mother was a nasty whore.





I apologize for grammatical errors- a side effect of IMDbing on my iPhone.

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Great post.

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Mama Gartrelle is a saint and pappa Gatrelle will attest to that.




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