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joaquin deserved the oscar over DDL


don't get me wrong, DDL's performance was outstanding - well resarched, amazingly executed, and probably oscar worthy any other year.

but the raw energy and physicality that joaquin brought to the role just cannot be beaten, IMO.

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Totally agree.
Joaquin Phoenix was mesmerizing.

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haha do you comment on every PTA related post?

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No...every Joaquin Phoenix related post.
He's my favorite actor.

Didn't you want a response?



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oh no I did, it's just I always see "a malcontent who knows how to spell" on all the posts.

PS Joaquin's my favorite actor too

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100% agree, and I'll tell you why. I didn't even like Joaquin Phoenix before this movie. And I'm a huge Daniel Day-Lewis fanboy. This may sound like an exaggeration, but I'm not kidding, Joaquin Phoenix in The Master is the best performance I've ever seen.

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I totally agree. Joaquin's performance was absolutely incredible. He felt like a real person. It stuck with me for days and left a real impression on me

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Completely agree. Of all the movies I've seen, I can think of maybe 3 performances that are better. Maybe.

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100% agree with u BrendanFrye...he was just outstanding in this movie...JP allways makes great roles, just like PSH, but in this movie he took it to a whole other level.

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Agreed, but the Academy is garbage to begin with and there was no chance DDL's strum-und-drang Lincoln wasn't getting the statuette. The Master wasn't even nominated for Best Picture, more insultingly.

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The Academy is 85% made up of rich, white males over the age of 50. And their votes are largely bought by the studios with expensive "Oscar campaigns." These two factors are why the Oscars are garbage and don't matter beyond boosting the DVD and ticket sales of the winners.


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You're right but unfortunately Lincoln is oscar bait and this is something very radical. It hardly has anything to do with quality/talent but that's just how it goes with those awards. That's also not to say though that DDL lacks quality or talent but I do think that JP had a much more difficult role to execute while DDL's role was mostly just filling huge shoes not necessarily a complexity of a character. Still though I find it easy to just accept the movie relative to itself as the masterpiece that it is with or without the oscars. Oscars really are just like the kid with straight A's not the most creative or most intelligent etc etc. I think the trouble starts when we define actors/movies/directors/writers/etc by their "validation" on paper, so to speak.

Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.

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The anniversary of the Imancipation Proclamation drove the vote.

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Understandably so, oscars are very much romanticized by the public perception. They don't hold the weight within the business that one may think in certain ways

Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.

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I prefer this film and performance . No doubts. But I dont agree. He would have been worthy but DDL was out of this world as Lincoln and he deserved the oscar. Just.

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Completely agree. DDL basically admitted it in his acceptance speech. Unfortunately, I feel DDL is slowly entering the Meryl Streep phase of his career.

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