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The "Variant" walker concept is stupid ...

posted 2 years ago by TrentnQuarantino (9187)
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If they were going to do that they should have been doing it all along, as in the first season and first episodes the walkers could climb ladders, use rocks as tools and other stuff. They either should not have changed that, or gone the whole series with some kind of logic behind it ... like the freshly killed walkers would retain some amount of motor coordination but would dwindle over time. The twisting the door knobs, or climbing ladders now is just a cheap gimmick that says they were wrong.

[–] Golfaddict666 (523) 2 years ago

You’re an idiot
If you watched the series finale of World Beyond after the credits it was all explained in a very dramatic scene.
Where do you dolts come from

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 2 years ago

> it was all explained in a very dramatic scene.

I'd say when you get all hot and bothered about zombie show, you're the dolt. There is no reasonable suspension of disbelief explanation that can explain any of it, but regaining coordination and perception in a brain that has been dead for days, months, or years and you buy that ... good for you, genius.

[–] Golfaddict666 (523) 2 years ago

You’re an IDIOT. We know it’s make believe, what does that have to do with anything? They’re zombies, it’s make believe and so was the explanation. It’s plausible in the context of the show. You 12 years old?

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 2 years ago

No, I'm only three and 10x smarter than you.

[–] ksio89 (79) 2 years ago

lol

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) 2 years ago

Please tell us the explaination?

[–] Golfaddict666 (523) 2 years ago

Just say there was an assassin, a French scientist, laboratory and a variant Walker in the scene.
Think all the way back when our survivors ended up at the CDC at the end of the first season. What did Jenner say about the French?

[–] mtxmind (3296) 2 years ago

I believe Jenner said that the French were close to a solution when suddenly all communication went silent.

Apparently, what went wrong in France was teased in The World Beyond spin off at the end, & sets up Daryl's reason for going there.

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) 2 years ago

How will Daryl get too France?

[–] Golfaddict666 (523) 2 years ago

He takes a plane with some scientists

[–] Keelai (34882) 2 years ago

The Varient Walkers are in the first episode. Morgan's wife was one.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 2 years ago

In the earlier episodes they were not variants, they were just ignored. When Rick and the group went back to Atlanta to retrieve the guns and Merle they did stuff we never saw them until 10 years/seasons later. They were picking up rocks and smashing them against the glass, and climbing up ladders. They still seemed to understand how to navigate stairs and climb on things. These were the same walkers that would walk right into a spear. It is just absurd.

The show basically just ignored anything the walkers could do in favor of having quiet scenes with someone walking or standing alone and then all of a sudden from off camera a walker would lurch in and try to bite them.

I don't recall Morgan's wife doing anything but what Morgan said is that she kept coming back around to their house.

One was supposed to have picked up a knife at the end of the Outpost 22 episode. I think I might have seen that, but I thought it was a skinjob or whatever the Alpha crowd called themselves.

[–] Keelai (34882) 2 years ago

Morgan's wife turned the doorknob to their house and repeatedly returned there each night. Morgan is shown trying to shoot her from the window, but can't.

The little girl walker retrieves her teddy bear before walking very fast toward Rick.

Apparently, variants are extremely rare in the U.S. and the CDC scientist said he didn't see any which would explain their near absence . But, in France, they're more common and that's where Daryl is heading in the spinoff.

Suspense and tension in early seasons were created by not knowing which principle character was going to be killed off each week. They abandoned that in later seasons. Having a variant walker appear unexpectedly may add those elements again if they don't rely on it too much by keeping them to a minimum.

I also like the idea of the virus affecting walkers differently. Either as a variant virus or different symptoms/behaviors emerging.

"quiet scenes with someone walking or standing alone and then all of a sudden from off camera a walker would lurch in

I agree. That never made sense. They should've had Walkers be quiet most of the time and only make noise while attacking.

[–] Keelai (34882) 2 years ago

Btw, I acknowledge the "Variant Walkers" idea is a recent concept built on inconsistencies of past Walker behavior, but I think it works since it'll keep Daryl on his toes and offers an explanation for those earlier errors.

[–] Grimace788 (267) 2 years ago

I agree. In season 1 and season 11 the zombies had these extra abilities but for all seasons in between they did not. Why would they get back these abilities so many years later. The post credit scene took place in France at the beginning of the outbreak. That wouldn't explain why the zombies in North America had this ability, then lost it, then got it back after such a long time.
I think the show just changed it up to try to get people interested again.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 2 years ago

Sound logical to me. It was getting to the point of being so very stupid that all the walkers turned into were a set of mobile chattering teeth that somehow with the horrible stench they must have,and the total lack or awareness as to where they were walking and what they were stepping on, nevertheless, could sneak up on a normal living breathing human and suddenly lurch at them from off-camera, and take a big bite out of someone with teeth that were rotting away and falling out, but about a foot or two away, without making a sound, and repressing the constant growling noises they make - was ridiculous. So, they made them a little more scary, and then tried to make it a big deal in their press releases and marketing material.