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Another Rock BOMB. Looks like Dwayne over valued his worth


Dwayne was positioning himself to be the next face of DC EU.

Using his industry muscle, and past successes as the top star of Hollywood! /S

Based on being one of the people in Jumanji, a voice in a Disney cartoon, and in a few fast and Furious films with other people.

The rest of his movies have been box office disasters time and time again.

To be noted that films he leads have been few and far away from success. Most of his successes have been with him as a co-star or an ensemble player.

Now he's getting too old and looks like a shrivelled prune. He's going to have to give up the steroids soon, and it's going to be a bigger change in look than when Dave Bautista quit the roids.

The only thing is, Bautista built a career on his role choices and acting. Rocks roids clock is ticking, and he's built "family films" as a career path with a certain look and persona.

Dwayne's best bet is doing a sequel to Twins, except he is playing the Danny De Vito character and Arnie plays Arnie again.

The family route didn't work, and he's got no real action chops as he went for soft action and has no memorable action or sci-fi films like the past greats.

Where is the Rock's Edge of Tomorrow, Commando, Die Hard, Total Recall, Predator, Rambo, Matrix, Speed, 12 Monkeys etc?

Not a single sci-fi or action of note in his whole career.

He doesn't even have a Time Cop or Universal Soldier B-Movie that people talk about today, and definitely no sequels stemming from his movies. He certainly doesn't have any fanbase calling for sequels because he has no fanbase.

Why? Because he doesn't have a kill count. He doesn't swear. He doesn't time travel. He doesn't bang or have that big dick energy where he doesn't even need to bang his hot co-star because he bangs so much in his free time. His movies were throwaway popcorn tripe.

He doesn't have any notable quips after he lops the top of a goons head off with a circular saw. He hasn't met a midget with three tiddies in a bar on Mars. He hasn't been chased by a maniac on a motorcycle with a chainsaw, then killed the maniac with his own chainsaw. He hasn't cut a pizza with scissors, chewed on a match and stuck the middle finger up to his supervisors.

Not even a fighting/boxing movie, even though he is a wrestler by trade and his first expertise was in the ring.

Why? Because for a boxing/fighting movie, the character must go through trials and tribulations and that would mean the Rock would have to be beaten! For character growth and depth to happen. Then the character after much hardship and introspection would rise from "Rock bottom" to earn his victory, and we all know Dwayne's ego will not allow him to ever get beaten, not even by a single punch. As per his contracts in previous action movies.

The Rock had so much potential to be the heir apparent to Arnie, with even more charisma than Arnie, so we thought. Turns out he's one note and doesn't have Arnies self depreciative side, which makes Arnie so great.

Dwayne fumbled the ball so badly with his career choices. Now he wants to flex his roid filed muscles to dictate the next decade of Hollywood, when he has about as much flex as Stephen Hawking on leg day at the gym.

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"...To be noted that films he leads have been few and far away from success."

Sorry but the Rock has made several movies where he is clearly the lead actor and they still did well at the box office: Scorpion King, The Game Plane, Race to Witch Mountain, Journey 2, Snitch, Hercules, San Andreas, Rampage, and Skyscraper. His filmography is not as iconic as that of Stallone or Schwarzenegger I agree.

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If those are his best........

I rest my case.

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I didn’t suggest they were his best. I said they made a profit.

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What about the Jumaniji movies which I’m pretty sure he’s most known for? Or do they not count because it’s more of an ensemble than him being the clear cut 1a lead?

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Fake News from village idiot. Hasn't opened domestically. Did well internationally.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt14948432/?ref_=bo_se_r_1

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You post a soft opening from a few countries (most money coming from UK $3,105,641) as a victory?

It's a Christmas movie, and ensemble cast which includes........SANTA CLAUS.

The Rock cannot do it alone.

This will not be remembered by January 2025.

It's a McDonald's movie. Fast food. Consume and throw in the trash. Not good enough to be remembered, not bad enough to be remembered.

Basically Dwayne's whole career.

After this "success", what now for the Rock?

Its his last gasp before he has to quit the roids because the clock is ticking.

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oooof! Your comment aged BADLY.

Even paired with Santa Claus himself, the Rock doesn't have the box office clout he thought he had.

Somehow, the Rock duped Hollywood into writing checks he couldn't pay back.

A bigger ego than Stallone in his prime, yet Stallone was writing and acting in Oscar winning movies that blew up the cultural zeitgeist, then writing, directing acting in big money makers with sequel follow ups.

Dwayne hasn't done anything on the big screen on his own to move the needle.

Red One had a $250m budget (double that for advertising) and it has yet to muster above $150m worldwide.

Almost a month now and it does not look good.

Fake news indeed. From YOU!

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'Why? Because for a boxin/fighting movie, the character must go through trials and tribulations and that would mean the Rock would have to be beaten! For character growth and depth to happen.Then the character after much hardship and introspection would rise from "Rock bottom" to earn his victory and we all know Dwaynes ego will not allow him to ever get beaten, not even by a single punch. As per his contracts in previous action movies.'

That one's interesting. Stallone had no problem showing Rocky getting beaten - it meant he came back stronger and the better for it. Likewise, Arnie in T2 and T3 had no problem losing to a superior Terminator, because he still ended up incredibly heroic. Even Van Damme's taken the occasional 'loss' (including one to Stallone!). Dolph, too.

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Another part of the "Heroes Journey".

Except, Dwaynes ego is so big that he cannot take an extra punch because he believes it will diminish his "brand".

What a joke.

Arnie we know can be introspective, look at himself and derive depreciative humour from that.

Arnie can take losses in service to the story.

Stallone at his peak with a massive coke filled ego can even make fun of himself.

And most of his movies centre around him taking losses, hitting rock bottom. Even starting from rock bottom as a loser. Rocky & Rambo, Rhinestone, Over The Top.

Stallone is the king of losing, resetting the characters status from level 100 back down to level 1 then building back up with struggle...Cliffhanger, Demolition Man, Tango and Cash, Nighthawks (which is very good, go watch it) even Judge Dredd. At Stallone's peak, it must have been in his contract that his character takes a major loss.

The Rock is unable to achieve this feat, the Rock cannot ever lose.

The Rock only ever........wins.

Therefore, Dwayne loses.

What a waste. And everybody thought this guy had potential.

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I do like Nighthawks.

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"Arnie we know can be introspective, look at himself and derive depreciative humour from that."

"Arnie can take losses in service to the story."


Screw your freedoms

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He should have done Doc Savage instead of this!

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I wish!

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He made a cool 50 million. What does he care if the movie sucks. If companies are willing to pay him, that's their fault.

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Dwayne Johnson's ego doesn't care about his movies bombing? Again?

OK buddy, what ever you say.

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So he made 50 million and his ego should care? But not him? Yea ok buddy. Make perfect sense. I'm sure his ego will not accept the money.

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You're rambling.

So you really think Dwayne Johnson doesn't care that another of his movies bomb?

Dwayne has a massive ego.

He thought he was a massive star and had some clout in the industry.

He tried to use his clout to dictate the future of the DCEU. He thought he could be the next face of DC with Black Adam. People had been calling for the Rock to play Black Adam for years.

Black Adam bombed. It showed that Dwayne doesn't have the clout he thought he had and can't put bums in seats.

Dwayne got paid millions for Black Adam.

So your logic is......Dwayne made money. So he doesn't care that he is losing influence in Hollywood and being shown that his name isn't worth anything and can't pull crowds in.

Dwayne doesn't care because he got paid?

Of course, he cares, Dwayne cares very much.

He has a gigantic ego.

Now another bomb, even when being teamed with Captain America and Santa Claus himself in a Christmas movie without any other family movie competition.

The grip he assumed he had on Hollywood is slipping through his fingers. Dwayne can't walk into board rooms, beat his fist on the table and get what he wants any more.

Dwayne cares very much.

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Because studios won't keep paying that if audiences don't care about him. So he should care.

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Until that happens, he shouldn't. And it does not seem to be happening anytime soon. I'm sure one day after he's made a billion dollars will he start to care.

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You seem to be really hung up on money.

No actor wants to see their movies bomb when their face is on the poster.

Nobody wants to see their career go on a downward spiral.

Money doesn't fill the gap of humiliation over yet another bomb in his name.

Stop trying to assume people are only money focused.

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Haha. Firstly I could care less about money. Secondly, I do know he was paid a LOT of money and everyone here is complaining he clearly mailed it in. That's all I'm saying. I'm not even sure why the hell you are talking to me about it. What are you? His fucking manager? Maybe let it go.

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I'm not even sure why the hell you are talking to me about it.


You're the one replying. This is my thread and you continue to chime in, and your only point is $$$$$$.

everyone here is complaining he clearly mailed it in


Not one comment here about his performance. It's about his career choices and his inability to put bums in seats even though he thinks he has some clout in Hollywood.

I do know he was paid a LOT of money


And you're also saying the Rock only cares about money and doesn't care that he is losing influence in Hollywood.

The same Dwayne Johnson that has in his contract for Fast & Furious that he cannot take one extra punch in a fist fight scene, or it will diminish his on screen "BRAND".

Yet you seem to think the same Dwayne Johnson doesn't care that another movie he stars in BOMBS because he got paid. Suddenly, Dwayne Johnson doesn't care about his brand.

Not the smartest person in the room are you.

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The movie was excellent for the type of movie it was.

Typically, I do other things while I mostly listen to movies. I find most cliched with predictable plots but this had so much going on I watched without any distractions.

It was great.

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