I have 1 Question. it's about Bane's death??
did Bane died when catwoman shot him with the Batpod? I really don't know if he die when catwoman shot him.
sharePretty sure it killed him.
Definitely an anticlimactic death, though.
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Yes. Really anticlimatic.
shareHe was just stunned for a bit.
shareThere's no way anyone could have survived that blast, so yes he's dead. And the reason for his "anti-climatic death" was because by that point Bane had served his purpose and the focus had now shifted to Talia al Ghul.
shareHe never reappeared or was mentioned again after he was shot with the Batpod, so that means... he was indeed a goner! It’s generally accepted that Bane was killed.
Now whilst some hardcore fans will defend Bane’s death (naturally), it seems clear to me that the majority of viewers thought this WAS such a lame way for him to go. Besides being anticlimactic, in my view Bane’s death was also awkwardly executed. And you know, I often hear that Nolan isn’t one to do things by the book (the happy ending is fine by me tho! Lol), however to call Bane’s exit from the film anti-climatic would be an understatement. The League of Shadows himself just went... poof!
This question comes up often. Yeah. We’re led to believe that Bane died.
I found it to be anti-climatic too. I also thought it was un-fulfilling that Catwoman, not Batman, did the job.
But I think artistically, the writers were trying to convey the sense that Marion Cotilard’s character, not Bane, was the real villain. Hence, Bane went off like a low henchman while she got the better death
Yes he's definitely dead.
shareI’d tuned out how bad Bane’s death is. He’s such a frightening villain and totally powerful, and then suddenly he’s blubbing and randomly gets blasted by catwoman, and we don’t even see him ‘expire’. Nolan’s getting better as a filmmaker but he still has moments of epic failure.
shareIt wasn't a moment of epic failure, a nuclear bomb was going to go off in 11 minutes, there wasn't time for a long, drawn out death scene that would have been ridiculous, plus by that point the focus of the film had shifted to Talia. At least he got a proper sendoff unlike Saurman in that stupid Lord of the Rings movie.
shareHe didn’t get a proper send off, that’s the point, it’s not even clear that he’s dead. It would have been very easy to show him engulfed in explosion (like Ra’s Al Ghul), crushed, or a clear shot of his lifeless corpse.
He did get a proper send off and there’s no way he’s alive you can’t survive that blast.
shareNonsense, it was a generalised blast that sent him flying - there’s no confirmation at all that he’s dead. It’s possible that his fate was deliberately vague because Nolan’s Batman is not a killer, and Catwoman seemed to be coming round to his ‘no killing’ rule, but that doesn’t excuse leaving his fate a mystery and the total lack of send-off for an otherwise great villain.
That blast blew up cars, there's no way anyone could survive that especially considering Nolan's semi-realistic approach to this universe. It was a proper sendoff to one of the greatest villains ever. Also Catwoman was never coming around to his "no killing" policy, she flat out said that she doesn't feel as strongly about it as Batman does.
shareYou’ve already been told that it was a generalised blast that sent him flying - and that there’s no confirmation at all that he’s dead - a crucial point that you ignored. Catwoman obeyed Batman’s ‘no killing’ rule earlier and was coming around to his morality, so it’s possible that Bane’s fate was deliberately vague but that doesn’t excuse leaving it a mystery and the total lack of send-off for an otherwise great villain.
shareThe blast blew up a car, how is anyone going to be able to survive that? Tell you what, have your friend shoot an RPG at you and we'll see if you survive.
There is no mystery, it is not left open ended, Bane is dead.
And if it had blown up Bane then you’d have a point, but it didn’t - it sent him flying across the room, so you don’t.
Then there’s the fact that we see no confirmation of his death - a point you’ve tellingly ignored twice now.
His fate is vague and it’s possible that this was deliberate to show Catwoman continuing to come round to Batman’s morality.
Doesn't matter, the force of that blast would have killed him, the same blast flipped over cars like it was nothing, Bane is definitely dead. You don't need a confirmation of death and it was never left intentionally vague or unconfirmed.
shareAnd if it had blown up Bane then you’d have a point, but it didn’t - it sent him flying across the room, so you don’t.
Then there’s the fact that we see no confirmation of his death - a point you’ve tellingly ignored twice now.
His fate is vague and it’s possible that this was deliberate to show Catwoman continuing to come round to Batman’s morality.
Again you don’t need a confirmation of his death, that blast flipped cars over at the very least it would have crushed his heart and every bone in his body. It was never meant to be ambiguous, Nolan said well in advance that TDKR would be the conclusion, there was no point in leaving it ambiguous, he’s dead , it’s not like inception, he’s dead, it’s also not a sign of cat woman coming around to Batman’s morality, if it were she would have blasted a guy in the chest and then said “about the whole no guns thing I don’t feel as strongly about it as you do”, everything we see suggests the opposite of what you say
shareNo, he’s sent flying across the room and there is no confirmation at all that he’s dead, that’s why we’re having this discussion. You’re just making excuses for Nolan’s poor filmmaking and you’re not convincing anyone but your deluded self.
shareI have already explained this to you multiple times and somehow it's not getting through that thick skull of yours, look at what the blast from the Batpod did to cars, it flipped over 5000 pound pieces of metal, that blast even if it didn't blow him up would have crushed every organ in his body, you cannot live through that. It's not poor filmmaking at all, anyone who pays attention and has an education past kindergarten would know that Bane is dead. There was no reason for Nolan to keep things ambiguous, he stated before he even made TDKR that this was going to be his final Batman film.
shareYour ‘explanation’ is just bad sophistry in which you desperately try to justify Nolan’s poor handling of Bane’s fate, in which he is merely thrown across the room and is never shown to be actually dead. We never see him expire - a point you’ve tellingly ignored several times now.
shareMy explanation was sufficient, I don't know why you don't understand this because it's pretty clear cut. It was established the power of the blast that comes out of the batpod, you cannot survive it. We don't need to see him expire, anyone who's paying attention would know he expired. This is as dumb of a complaint as not knowing how Bruce made it back to Gotham.
This is a non-issue.
Your ‘explanation’ is just fanboy bullshit for the reasons already given.
This thread exists entirely because it’s not clear whether Bane dies or not, the fact that we never see him expire leaves his fate a mystery - a point you’ve tellingly ignored five times now.
Not at all, if you pay attention to the force of the blast previously established any idiot would know that Bane is dead, you cannot survive that, the blast was flipping over 5000 pound cars. It is 100% clear that Bane is dead, it's not a mystery. I have considered every talking point you've presented and they are all nonsense.
Might I suggest you watch a movie that doesn't require you to think as much as TDKR does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgHw7aQuso
1:09 - You CANNOT survive that. It was never a question of whether Bane was dead or not, he's definitely dead. How you ever came up with this hypothesis that he's alive is beyond me.
I didn’t ‘come up with’ this, it’s the title of this thread, created by someone else, and is widely shared - precisely because Bane’s fate is unclear.
If he was shown expiring then there would be no confusion, but seeing an almost superhuman villain fly across the room with no shot of him dying nor dead leaves his fate a mystery, and is a terrible send-off for an otherwise great villain. Your excuses for Nolan’s poor filmmaking are desperate and utterly unconvincing.
And the OP is wrong as well, Bane's fate is not unclear, it very cut and dried, he's dead. They didn't announce to the audience "BANE IS DEAD" because anyone who has been paying attention would know he was dead. The Batpod canon flipped cars over, that kind of force would crush your chest completely and all of your organs would stop working. You keep repeating yourself and unfortunately for you no matter how many times you repeat yourself it's not going to change the facts.
Nolan had no reason to keep his death a mystery, he never had any intention of making another movie, he said back in 2010 that TDKR would be the last Batman movie he would ever make and that it would conclude the story he began in 2005.
It wasn't a terrible send off, it was realistic, sometimes people die all of a sudden just like Billy Costigan in The Departed.
Honestly you haven't said anything that is supported by any kind of logic, you're really just making stuff up and it's getting pretty pathetic. Bane is dead, there is nothing to indicate otherwise, any ambiguity that you claim exists you just made up, that's as idiotic as people saying that it's ambiguous that Bruce is still alive and maybe Alfred is dreaming.
Wow so much drivel comes out this deluded fanboy it's unbelievable.
1. It was a shitty anti-climactic and unceremonious send-off, stop trying to argue otherwise.
2. Your analogy with Billy Costigan doesn't work. He wasn't a menacing villain built up to be this unstoppable force. A more apt comparison would be Jack Nicholson who is the main villain in the movie and he is given an appropriate send-off. Moron.
3. If the Batpod is as powerful as you say (exploding 5000 pound cars), he wouldn't fly across the room in the first place. His body would just explode from the sheer impact of the blast. So all you've done is expose another flaw in his supposed death sequence. Idiot.
4. There is no consistency in the physics of Nolan's world so it most certainly isn't a given that Bane would die from such a blast. Batman is seen kicking through concrete walls with his leg brace, and yet is unable to hurt Bane in their initial fight. Any human being would instantly have their chest caved in from such force. No consistency means no certainty.
You are owned again fanboy. Run along now.
Well said. That’s you, me, the OP and countless others left uncertain of Bane’s fate yet this yapping Nolan fankid thinks he can convince anyone with his weak-ass ‘arguments’ 🤣
share1. Just your moronic subjective opinion, dismissed
2. You do this frequently when you don't have an intelligent rebuttal, you just invent whatever rules you have to at random to support your idiotic position. Di Caprio was the top billed actor of his film while Hardy was 5th. If a quick sudden death is OK for the top billed actor then it's OK for the 5th billed actor and clearly Costigan had more focus in his film than Bane had in his film. Also I never once asserted he was an unstoppable force, you just made that up kid. He also was never once built up as someone who could survive a canon, he just had a mask that blocked out pain, that doesn't make him invincible you imbecile he can just take more pain than the average person. That blast would have killed anyone, and people dying suddenly is realistic because in a battle bullets are bombs are going off everywhere and people can die all of a sudden. Dismissed
3. I said it flipped over the cars, also if you watch the Dark Knight the cars clearly didn't completely explode, they flipped over. learn how to read and how to pay attention. Dismissed
4. There is plenty of consistency (with Nolan, you are another story) and anyone who is actually paying attention and has an IQ higher than my shoe size should have figured out that Bane was dead. The leg brace is a non sequitur not to mention that Bane has a mask delivering a steroid to him that blocks out pain (also the reason why earlier Batman hit him in the face and he didn't feel it), with what Batman had to work with (as in he didn't have a canon on him) the way to defeat Bane is to disable the mask so his pain starts to kick in, clearly that also went over your head. Dismissed
I'm starting to feel like a bully, the beating I gave you clearly gave you brain damage and I'm afraid if I continue I'll disable you permanently.
1. Saying 'it wasn't a terrible send-off' is also a subjective opinion fucktard. The fact that it was an unceremonious send-off however is objective.
2. Billing order has nothing to do with it fuck knuckle, Nicholson wasn't top billing for The Departed either. You need to make a relevant comparison in terms of the role.
3. Lmao this is the video you posted you moronic toolbag - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgHw7aQuso - skip to 1:09. How the fuck is that just flipping the car over? The doors have been blown off the hinges and the car is 10 feet in the air. You shoot a human body with that much force and it will explode into pieces, it would not just fly across the room. LOL it's hilarious that I can use your own evidence against you. Idiot.
4. You don't even know what non sequitur means you neanderthal. There is absolutely no consistency when it comes to what should kill a human being in Nolan's world. A steroid to block out pain isn't going to help when your bones are completely shattered and you've got organ failure from internal bleeding. Batman can kick through brick wall with his leg brace, Bane's chest should've caved in from a single kick or at the very least severely injured him, and yet he shrugs it off like it's nothing. Like I said, no consistency.
You are humiliated and owned once again fantard, this is becoming a habit of mine.
1. There you go, now you're getting it, this is completely subjective so quit acting like you've proven anything by saying "wah wah wah it was a terrible sendoff", would you like a cookie for mastering a 3rd grade Language Arts concept?
2. It has everything to do with it, Di Caprio was killed off all of a sudden and he was a bigger character in his respective movie. You're just inventing whatever rules you need to to get you to the conclusion you want you idiot. If killing off the top billed actor all of a sudden is OK, then it's OK to kill off the 5th billed actor all of a sudden. You have contradicted yourself so much it's getting humorous by this point.
3. Watch your own video you moron, the car is clearly not completely destroyed however that blast is still powerful enough that NO human could ever survive it. One could talk to a rock and have a more intelligent conversation than with you.
4. I completely understand it you imbecile and you have put forth several, maybe you should take some kind of logic 101 course. And that's exactly what I was arguing genius, when Catwoman blasted him with the canon it would have completely shattered his entire body and there's no way he'd be alive. Therefore there is no mystery or ambiguity as to whether he's dead or not, he's dead. Funny how you argue that he could have survived a freaking canon that flipped cars yet a kick should have killed him. You just shot yourself in the foot you moron.
You seem to love me owning you, you have a very odd fetish, seek help.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roGECc9IGqg Watch this scene again, the brick was clearly already weathering away meaning it wasn't as strong as normal brick therefore did not require the same amount of force needed to break normal brick. You lose again, Better luck next kid.
1. First of all, Bane's send-off being unceremonious is an objective statement, it's not subjective. Secondly, if it's completely subjective what are you even arguing about you moron? This entire thread is just you arguing against subjective opinion. Example -
Drooch - "He didn’t get a proper send off"
MovieDickhead497 - "He did get a proper send off"
Lmao if it's completely subjective then what the fuck are you arguing about you colossal dickhead? Take your own advice because this is literally all you do with your time - argue against people's subjective opinion.
2. Again, your autism is at play here. The equivalent character in The Departed would be Frank Costello (Jack Nicholson) who IS given a proper death instead of being blasted off the screen in a split second.
3. Lmao the car has clearly been blown up you blind wombat, the doors have been blown off the hinges and the entire car is 10 feet in the air. I repeat - a human body would explode on impact from such force, it would not be flung across the room. So this movie has absolutely no consistency when it comes to the laws of physics and the durability of the human body i.e. you're a dickhead and have been owned using your own video footage.
4. You clearly don't know what non sequitur means otherwise you wouldn't have used it incorrectly. And again, this movie has no consistency when it comes to the durability of the human body. The cannon should've disintegrated his body on impact, not flung him across the room. Batman's kick should've caved in Bane's entire chest, and yet he brushes it off like he's been tickled with a feather. This. Movie. Has. No. Consistency.
You lose again bud. Get a life and stop attacking people who have a negative opinion of this movie.
1. Actually it is still subjective, in order for it to be objective you'd have to find a way to quantify an "unceremonious" death. Secondly I never once said that statement was objective, I clearly was giving my subjective opinion and any kindergartner would have been able to figure this out you nimrod.
2. More personal insults equate to you running out of talking points, I accept your concession. And Costello was the 3rd billed character, Di Caprio was the 1st and you already conceded that he was killed out "unceremoniously" so your logic just slapped you in the face.
3. The car wasn't completely blown up you idiot, pay attention next time you watch it, the batpod flipped the car over, if the canon has that amount of power then the default position is it would kill a human (although I see no evidence that it would have automatically disintegrated a human body, that's just your assumption). You've been dominated and you're too stupid to notice
4. I do and I used the term correctly. The movie has consistency and since you aren't smart enough for it you don't even realize it. OMG did you not even pay attention in the like 30 second video I showed you, THE BRICK WAS CLEARLY WEATHERING, THEREFORE NOT AS STRONG AS NORMAL BRICK!!! That along with Bane's mask which delivers a drug to his body that blocks out the pain is all the explanation you need as to why the kick didn't impact him. I also accept your concession that the blast would have killed Bane, you just admitted defeat and you're too dumb to see it, you just said it should have killed him, there you go, no ambiguity, it is clear cut that he's dead. There's also nothing to indication that his body should have disintegrated considering we never once saw the impact of the canon on a person, as of now it is fully logical that the blast would have killed someone however there is no corroborating evidence that it would have "disintegrated" his body (where you got that from is beyond me). We didn't see the cares disintegrate so therefore you are not in any position to make any claim about the amount of force needed to disintegrate anything, nor do you know the amount of force that the canon exerts, all we know is that the canon did exert enough force to flip a car and that definitely would kill a man, you however have not proven that it's enough to disintegrate a man and I think this whole disintegration talking point is a just a deflection because you know you're getting your butt kicked. I need to see a simulated, controlled, quantified and repeatable experiment that proves his body would have disintegrated or else I'm not entertaining this nonsense any more. You're just making stuff up by this point and your talking point is dismissed.
Don't kick yourself in the butt too hard, we all have our bad days, you just have more than the average person. Also quit playing the victim, no one is attacking you, if you feel like you're being persecuted then go back to your safe space where you belong.
1. Nope, it's an objective statement. It was an abrupt death by a side character and his body was literally tossed to the side within a split second and not shown again. That is objectively an unceremonious send-off.
2. Yawn. Again, billing order is irrelevant. Find me another high profile villain who got a shitty abrupt death and we'll talk.
3. What the hell is 'completely blown up'? You're arguing semantics because you have no rebuttal for this one. Again - the car was engulfed in flames, the doors blown off the hinges and flipped 10ft in the air. This kind of force would blow a human body into pieces. This movie has no consistency when it comes to physics.
4. LOL at the brick was weathering. Jesus Christ your arguments reek of desperation.
I need to see a simulated, controlled, quantified and repeatable experiment that proves his body would have disintegrated or else I'm not entertaining this nonsense any more.
Aahahahahaha he wants a controlled, quantified and repeatable experiment for a fictional canon from a fictional universe which has no consistency in its firepower. Lmao this is when you know you've been destroyed bud, when you arguments have been reduced to such desperate drivel. Where's your experiment to prove a fictional supervillain would die from said blast? You just shot yourself in the foot jackass.
And I repeat - if a cannon is powerful enough to blow up a car, engulf it in flames, blow the doors of its hinges and vault it 10 feet in the air with a single shot, it will blow up a human body made of flesh and bones with that same shot and to a greater extent. That's called common sense champ, and only a desperate deluded fucktard of a fanboy like yourself would deny that. LOL at a controlled, repeatable test for a fictional cannon. Fucking hilarious.
I actually feel like a rapist right now this is so brutal. share
1. Prove it's an objective statement kid, in order for it to be objective you'd have to have some way of quantifying what constitutes an "unceremonious" death. I'll wait.
2. A "shitty, abrupt death" is just your subjective opinion, I didn't think it was "shitty" or "abrupt". You're 3rd grade teacher should be fired because clearly she failed you
3. The car was largely intact you moron, it was just flipped over, it didn't "disintegrate" therefore you have no logical reason to assert Bane's body would have done so. I seriously feel like I'm talking to my hand here, only my hand is slightly more intelligent than you are. BTW speaking of no consistency in physics explain to me how the Joker died from falling off a building yet Catwoman in the next film (by the same director) survived not one, not two, but three falls from a similar height, being shot 4 times and electrocuting herself??? (Actually you can just call it two falls from a similar height, I know you’ll probably say the kitty litter broke one of the falls, that’s fine I don’t need it.) You know the movies you have openly praised repeatedly. Idiot.
4. If you can't quantifiable determine that Bane's body would have disintegrated then you have no basis in asserting it would have. This is common logic, you seriously must have manure for brains. Watch the clip again you imbecile, it was still in one piece when it flipped over, if it didn't "disintegrate" the car then you don't have any idea what material the canon is capable of disintegrating then therefore you aren't justified in saying Bane's body definitely would have disintegrated. LOL, now you've reduced your argument to just saying "its common sense", that's code for you don't have anything intelligent left to say and you're just trying to save face. I'll say this again: THE CAR DIDN'T DISINTEGRATE, WE DIDN'T SEE THE CANON DISINTEGRATE ANYTHING, THEREFORE YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO ASSERT WHAT MATERIALS THE CANON'S FORCE WOULD HAVE DISINTEGRATED. You are beyond pathetic it's really sad.
Are you mentally challenged? This isn't meant as a put down but I suspect you are and if that's true I need to lay off of you because I would never give a mentally challenged person the vicious beating I'm giving you.
1. You clearly don't know the definition of objective or unceremonious. Grab a dictionary and get back to me.
2. "You're 3rd grade teacher should be fired because clearly she failed you" - lmao always hilarious when a low IQ cave dweller tries to insult your intelligence and fails to use basic grammar. And good job on ignoring my comment - give me an example of another high profile villain from a good movie with a comparable death. I'll wait.
3. I didn't say the car disintegrated, I said it was blown up and engulfed in flames. Honestly, I think this is your worst beating yet. You have failed in spectacular fashion today, bravo.
4. Again, nobody said the car disintegrated. Same BS as above.
Watch the clip again you imbecile, it was still in one piece when it flipped over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgHw7aQuso - the door comes flying off at 1:13. Owned. Again. Lmao. Let's hear the next excuse idiot.
if it didn't "disintegrate" the car then you don't have any idea what material the canon is capable of disintegrating then therefore you aren't justified in saying Bane's body definitely would have disintegrated.
Again, pick up a dictionary. You clearly don't know what disintegrate even means, you're probably confusing it with decompose.
Definition of disintegrate - break up into small parts as the result of impact
Would a human body made of flesh of bones break into small parts as the result of being BLOWN up by a cannon? The answer is a resounding yes. To quote my buddy Willy Wonka - It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You lose! Good day, sir!
EDIT: and again, where's your experiment to prove a fictional supervillain would die from said blast? Love how you sidestepped that one lol. share
1. How do you measure "unceremoniousness" and how much "unceremoniousness" must something have to be considered "unceremonious". Unless you can answer those questions then it's subjective you simpleton.
2. Whether there's another high profile villain or not that was killed off "unceremoniously" (whatever that means) is irrelevant. My position was that it was my opinion that he wasn't killed off "unceremoniously", I don't have to prove a damn thing to you. Clearly your 3rd grade teacher didn't teach you how to follow a conversation.
3. The flames quickly died down and the remainder of the car flipped over. In order for you to determine that Bane would have "disintegrated" you would have to have some kind of standard or baseline to compare his body to, since we didn't see anything else "disintegrate" you have no basis in saying his body would have disintegrated. I have explained this as clearly and as simply as I can, if you are still too stupid to get this then that's on you.
4. The car was still largely in one piece and it by no means "disintegrated" , again you have not determined how weak a material has to be to be disintegrated by the batpod so you can't say with any kind of certainty that Bane definitely would have disintegrated. This has got to be like the 5th time I was clearly explained this to you, even a 3 year old would understand this which means you're either a complete and utter moron or you are a troll, neither one would surprise me. The car didn't break up into small pieces, it lost the door, other than that it was for the most part in one piece, first of all what constitutes a "small piece", secondly the remainder of the car was very much not a small piece so your premise is dismissed.
"Would a human body made of flesh of bones break into small parts as the result of being BLOWN up by a cannon?" You have no idea considering this is a fictitious canon and Bane is the only person we saw being killed by the canon. You are talking out of your ass. Ah that's cute that you have to rip off Willy Wonka to pretend that you're still in this fight. You are a full fledged moron and I have zero respect for you, although if you want me to keep beating up on you I am more than willing to.
EDIT: The canon flipped a car over, it's within reason it would have killed Bane you moron. I already explained this but I guess reading comprehension is something you really struggle with. That and the fact that Nolan clearly said in 2010 that TDKR would be the final Batman movie in the franchise therefore from a writing perspective it would be nonsensical to leave his fate open to interpretation, he was never planning on bringing Bane back you idiot. Also as much as I hate moviefanatic I am getting a kick out of him whopping your ass as I do. I will say this he is less of a deluded imbecile than you are and that is the worst insult anyone could ever say about you.
1. Like I thought, you don't know the definition of either word. Do yourself a favor and pick up a dictionary.
2. No other examples? That's what I thought.
3. Aahaha "the flames quickly died down", that's neither here nor there. You said the car was still in one piece, and it's not. The door can clearly be seen flying off. You must be sweating bullets right now because you are getting absolutely humiliated on every single point.
4. LOL i'm laughing my ass off right now watching you squirm. The way you backed yourself into this corner is hilarious. Again, I never said the car disintegrated but you'll keep repeating that because you have no leg to stand on.
I said Bane's body would explode from the sheer impact of the blast if there was any consistency in Nolan's universe. And i'm still waiting - where's your experiment to prove a fictional supervillain would die from said blast? You're like Michael Flatley dude, you've been riverdancing around that one all night.
The ownage is just off the charts tonight lol. I hope you feel very stupid right now.
1. Got it, you can't prove it was unceremonious, don't worry I promise not to rub this vicious beating I've given you in your face too much.
2. It's not my burden of proof you moron, you have to prove his death was unceremonious because you claimed it was. Since you can't prove his death was unceremonious then your premise is dismissed. (BTW General Orumov in Goldeneye, Le Chifre in Casino Royale, Kamal Kahn in Octopussy, Ernst Stavro Blofeld in For Your Eyes Only etc.)
3. LOL not sweating bullets at all, instead laughing my ass off and how desperate you are, the fact that door flew off in no way constitutes "incinerated" by anyone's definition. Speaking of that, how do you know that Bane's guts didn't fly out through his back? The cut was so quick you are in no position to say they weren't therefore you don't know he wasn't "incinerated". By your logic if Bane lost just a tiny amount of blood he was "incinerated". Geez you are beyond pathetic
4. Glad you concede that the car wasn't incinerated, since the car wasn't incinerated you don't have a standard of how strong a material has to be to not be incinerated by the canon, therefore you can't say with any degree of certainty that Bane should have been incinerated. I also love how you totally ignored the inconsistency I proved with Burton physics,I guess I owned you on that point. Regardless of whether I can or can't show a villain killed off the same way Bane was is irrelevant and it's a pathetic attempt on your part to shift your BOP, even if I couldn't find another villain killed off all of a sudden (and I named several) you still would not have made 1 nanometer of progress in proving Bane was killed off unceremoniously, the two statements are unrelated to each other you simpleton. That's just like the creationists who say that if I can't prove evolution (which I can) then that means their God is real, it's preposterous.
It must really hurting being as braindead and stupid as you are, you need to see a doctor because the beating I'm giving you is giving you severe brain damage.
1. Again, you don't know the meaning of the words 'unceremonious' or 'objective'. You have a history of misusing words including 'non sequitur'. Pick up a dictionary.
2. It's your burden of proof when you started making irrelevant comparisons to Billy Costigan from The Departed. If you're going to make stupid comparisons, you'll get called out on it.
General Ouromov from GoldenEye - he's not even the main villain! That would be Sean Bean and he's given an appropriate death at the end of the movie.
Le Chiffre from Casino Royal - not even the same thing. They show him with the bullet in his head and linger on his dead body. They don't blast him off the screen in a split second and then make a funny quip.
The other two aren't even good movies and are verging on slapstick comedy territory. Your comparisons utterly fail. And lmao at all James Bond examples, how random.
3. Why are you quoting the word 'incinerated'? I didn't say that. I'll repeat it again since you want to ignore it - the car was not in one piece. You said it was in one piece and you were WRONG. Let's see if you're man enough to admit it, I won't hold my breath.
4. Now you're inventing quotes (only you have mentioned the word 'incinerated') to try and be right at something, at ANYTHING lmao. Are you aware of how desperate you look right now? Do a CTRL+F and see if anyone but you has used the word 'incinerated' you spineless turd.
Your comments about Burton's movies aren't helpful to your argument at all, Burton's movies aren't realistic in the slightest. You are the one desperately trying to argue the realism of Nolan's movies and you're failing miserably.
And i'm still waiting - where's your experiment to prove a fictional supervillain would die from said blast?
Lmao you really backed yourself into a corner on this one bud. Let this be a lesson you little dweeb, make sure your argument makes sense next time and you know what the hell you're talking about. Loser.
1. You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. You said it was an objective fact that his death was unceremonious which is quite odd because what could be unceremonious for one person could not be for another person, it's subjective numb nuts.
2. And I fulfilled my burden of proof as I proved that Billy Costigan was credited higher than Bane was, therefore if it's OK to kill off the main character all of a sudden it should be for a supporting character. Orumov was the secondary villain and had just as much presence in GE than Bane did in TDKR see now you're once again inventing your own rules. Le Chiffre was killed off all of a sudden and by his own partner no doubt, they lingered on the body for like 2 seconds genius, hardly what I would call going out in a blaze of glory. LOL so now the movie has to be a good movie by your subjective opinion? There you go again just inventing the rules as you go because you have to to keep your head about water as you are drowning in your own stupidity.
3. You're the one who brought up incinerated you moron. The car lost a door, hardly what I would consider to be incinerated and it's not out of the realm of possibility that Bane didn't suffer similar damage proportional to his body as the cut was very quick. Oh sorry "disintegrated" yeah that just changes everything, any toddler would have known what I meant numb nuts, you have issues.
4. I never once claimed the Burton films were realistic nor should they be, I said they had inconsistent physics which is what you attacked the Nolan films for. Learn how to read kid. I don't need an experiment to prove he would die, the blast flipped a car over and it's beyond unlikely that anyone would survive such an impact. You have to prove he wouldn't have died, although just a little while ago you were arguing that the blast would have blown his body to pieces so you're all over the place here.
You are beyond pathetic, you are a gutless scumbag loser and the savage beating I'm giving you is getting embarrassing. Step your game up kid or go back to your safe space.
1. An objective statement is not the same as a factual statement. Objective means - based on real facts and not influenced by personal beliefs or feelings.
The facts regarding Bane's death -
He's killed by a side character. He's blasted of the screen in a split second and never shown again followed by an attempt at a humorous quip at his expense. It is an objective statement to say that this was an unceremonious send-off. Don't worry, I won't charge you for this English lesson.
2. Ourumov is not the main villain so it's not even a relevant comparison. Hell he's not even 2nd billing as a villain. That would be Famke Janssen. And that's using your own billing order argument against you.
Le Chiffre had a confrontation prior to being executed, and a clear shot of his dead body. Not comparable to Bane's abrupt death by Catwoman. And there wasn't a lame attempt at a humorous quip after he died either.
Yes the movies have to be good! Lmao. If you're using B-movies as an example what's the point? You're inadvertently saying TDKR is a bad movie if those are your examples. Jesus christ, how are you still able to walk after shooting yourself in the foot so many times?
3. Aahahaha incinerate and disintegrate have completely different meanings. You're so fucking dense you can't even keep up with the conversation. You're not even man enough to admit you made the mistake. PATHETIC.
4. LOL so you don't need an experiment to prove your point but someone arguing the opposite does. This is what you said -
MovieChatUser497 - You CANNOT survive that. It was never a question of whether Bane was dead or not, he's definitely dead.
Also MovieChatUser497 - I need to see a simulated, controlled, quantified and repeatable experiment that proves his body would have disintegrated or else I'm not entertaining this nonsense any more.
Lmao I would delete all your posts in this thread if I were you, you have been thoroughly humiliated and intellectually stepped on. You will probably cry yourself to sleep tonight.
1. And again you are attempting to change the topic of discussion numb nuts. The discussion was is his death "unceremonious" and you can't prove that it was. The definition you gave was your subjective opinion, you have no basis to say it was unceremonious. It's subjective nimrod, quit deflecting and own it.
2. Orumov was just as big of a presence as Trevelyn was, heck Orumov was the man who Bond wanted revenge against for the entire first half, he was very much an important character who was killed off "unceremoniously" by your own standard (which you seem to just be making up as you go), I bet it sucks when your own failed logic bites you in the ass, I'm sure it happens to you alot. I also love how you completely ignored Ernst Stavro Blofeld and dismissed Kamal Kahn because you didn't like Octopussy which has nothing to do with the discussion, again you just invent the rules as you go to suit your agenda, it's very immature and dishonest. You're not going to weasel your way out of Le Chiffre, Le Chiffre was the main antagonist the entire film and was killed off in a span of about 4 seconds by one of his own guys, it was even more unceremonious than Bane's death was by your logic, but again you have an agenda and you're a dishonest fantard so what can one expect?
3. I am dismissing this point since you now have nothing left to say other than personal insults. You suck
4. The film made it quite clear that the blast would flip over cars, anyone who isn't a deluded mental defective would know Bane was dead, however there is nothing to indicate that it would disintegrate his body which is why you need to back up that assertion with objective data which you can't because your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.
If I were you I'd delete your whole profile but if you aren't that's fine, I enjoy laughing at your absurdity and your desperate pleas for attention. Also that's cute that your boyfriend moviefanatic taught you a new phrase. As for education I bet you still line up your stuffed animals and play school with them, you're a sick person.
1. Lol this isn't even a rebuttal, it's just you sticking your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes as usual. Again, pick up a dictionary because you clearly don't know what objective or unceremonious means.
2. Clean that shit out of your ears and open your eyes. I'll say it again - Sean Bean is the main villain in GoldenEye, your example is invalid. Ouromov is literally third place billing for villains in the movie. Laughable example.
Octopussy is not a good movie by ANY standards, not by the general audience or critics. Your example is invalid unless you're trying to prove TDKR has something in common with shit movies.
3. Aahaha just like I thought, not man enough to admit when you've made a mistake. This is like the third time you've made such a basic error, your reading comprehension skills are awful. Nobody used the word 'incinerate' in this thread except you, so you've been quoting an imaginary individual and you've basically been arguing with yourself. You're beyond moronic, it's embarrassing.
4. Lol so you don't have the results for your experiment then? That's what I thought. I'll post your stupidity again so you can relive it -
MovieChatUser497 - You CANNOT survive that. It was never a question of whether Bane was dead or not, he's definitely dead.
Also MovieChatUser497 - I need to see a simulated, controlled, quantified and repeatable experiment that proves his body would have disintegrated or else I'm not entertaining this nonsense any more.
That's what you call a fatality folks. You have been stripped of your dignity and exposed for the low IQ cave dwelling fantard you are. You should go back to avoiding me champ because i'll humiliate you every time. Give me something worth replying to this time otherwise i'll leave you to wallow in your failure. Dismissed.
1. If his death was objectively unceremonious then you'd be able to define the parameters that constitute a death being unceremonious, since you can't your premise is dismissed. Come back when you can actually defend your position rather than just talking out of your anus
2. Completely legit example, before you never said the villain had to be the main villain (heck some consider Talia to be the main villain of TDKR), another clear example of you just inventing the rules as you go as a last ditch effort whenever you get boxed into a corner, you also never said the movie had to have good critical reviews, when you say Octopussy is a bad movie that's again your subjective opinion, I personally rather enjoyed it yet Kamal Kahn didn't even have a fight with Bond, Bond just disabled the plane, saved Octopussy and Kamal was never seen or heard from ever again. You asked for examples, you got several so suck on it.
3. Both words involve destroying something beyond recognition, they are very similar, you're just grasping at straws and searching for another argument that you think you'll stand a chance on, it's a very pathetic debate strategy and it just shows that you've run out of rebuttals. You're so freaking pathetic.
4. I don't need to prove anything, the film did that for me, the film clearly established that the canon could flip cars on its side and thats enough force to kill a person, therefore there's no reason to think that he's still alive unless you're a deluded fantard like yourself. However the car was mostly still in tack aside from a door and maybe a few pieces of metal, that's far from the definition of "disintegrate" and now you've contradicted yourself, first you say Bane could still be alive then you say that the canon has enough force to "disintegrate" him, so which is it kid? As far as it stands the film has provided proof that he's dead but not provided proof that he should have been blown beyond recognition, the car was not blown beyond recognition, despite the fact that the door is off the owner is still going to be able to identify it.
Let me ask a personal question: How badly does it suck being you? You can't enjoy it.
I am dismissing your premise and your concession remains noted.
Funny you are talking about this guy again. I thought you didn't follow him? Hypocrite? You are every bit as petty as him.
shareJesus Christ stop following me you creep. The only time I respond to him is when I come across his nonsensical arguments or to expose his sock accounts (which you have also done).
You are literally just following me for the sake of it. It's creepy as fuck, leave me alone.
Don't bother arguing with MovieChatUser497, he's a deluded fanboy. It was a horrible and unceremonious send-off for what could've been a great villain. His lame death just negates everything they did prior to his death to make him seem like this formidable menacing force. Just another reason why this movie totally missed the mark.
shareThere’s much I like about TDKR and Bane is my favourite aspect, so his vague and mishandled fate stands out as a major weakness, as you point out.
He certainly is a deluded fanboy, I’m enjoying watching how he evades clear points and makes elaborate excuses for Nolan’s obvious failure.