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Welp, this was silly. Here's how a smart person would have done it

posted 12 years ago by diogo-w-figueiredo
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If anyone has a metal hook, you could just secure it on your belt, then wrap someone else's belt over the cable and on the hook, and down you go.

Course the cable is all razor sharp so the belt could break. In that case just add more things to the hook, like the goggles they were wearing. Or you could make sure that the part of the belt that's scraping on the cable is the beltbuckle.

Before you say 'But they didn't have a metal hook!', no. Even if you don't have a certified safety hook on you, you could still improvise one. Their ski boots are full of hooks.

The worst part would be the wolves. I think if two people can get down, they can fight them off.

The second person would get down very easily, even easier than the first person. Climb on to the cable as if you were hugging the cable. Then tie your belt on the cable (still on you). Then shimmy along, still in a monkey sort of hugging position. You can use your legs and boots to push forward and your hands will be fine.

Then they both fight off the wolves with the skiing gear. Maybe I'm underestimating how strong 5 wolves can be, but I think two grown men could handle it. Once the wolves realize their prey is stronger than them, they'll run away. It's not like they'd have to kill all 5 wolves. It's just a power struggle.

Then they make a safety net with their clothes, and the 3rd person can jump down easily.

There you go, all three of them safe, no wolves. This took me 20min to come up with, tops.

[–] OberstHansLanda 11 years ago

The worst part would be the wolves. I think if two people can get down, they can fight them off.

Fight them off…. fight off wolves? LOL

[–] Okeelani 11 years ago

"Fight them off…. fight off wolves? LOL"
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Agreed. Two grown men would have a heck of a time fighting off even 2 angry german shepherds, let along a pack of hungry, wild wolves.

[–] sandifay62 11 years ago

I don't care what horror movie, thriller or action movie is out there, there is always some arm chair expert that could've done it better from the safety of their own living room or basement.

These were average people that were only out for a skiing weekend. They expected to do some skiing, maybe partying, and get back home to their normal lives. They didn't expect to be caught up there in the snow, for a whole week. The fact that they decided to go for a quick run and even bribe a guy they didn't know to let them after everyone else was gone tells you they are that bright. They more than likely didn't know much about basic mechanics. Lol

Add to that the fact that they were freezing, hungry, exhausted, panicked, and only dressed for a day out in the snow and had no tools or weapons and the only one that was physically fit jumped and broke his legs, what happened to them is what would've happened in any scenario except for the luck the girl had in running into the relaxing wolves and car that happened to be passing by.

People need to stop watching movies like this and expecting everyone to do what Liam Nesson is directed to do in his movies.

As far as fighting off wolves, being frozen, exhausted, and hungry with damaged hands, it would be hard to fight off one, let alone the whole pack. The OP would be the first to die in any scenario with that ability to strategize.

[–] jesse-johannes-viljanen 11 years ago

Yes the people in this movie werent very bright but could you think of a very smart plan in that sitsuation? Its not hard to say you coul when your sitting infront of your computer. All youd want to do in that sitsuation is to get home as fast as you can and you mostlikely willnot think straight and will propably think that jumping of is the best option. and if they wanted to get of safely they should have grabbed both of the skies but them together and the part where you put your shoe to use that to slide down the cabble and when they get down just put the skies on and slide down as fast as you can away from the wolves nd then just start the elevator.

[–] TheVariable 10 years ago

If I were the guy who was the friend, I would have gotten the lighter off the girl, waited on the second ski lift for the wolves to leave, and then climbed down, quickly grabbed a branch and used the lighter on it, and then scared the wolves with the fire when they'd come for me. Probably wouldn't have worked still, but would have tried to use the lighter and fire somehow as they're afraid of that.

[–] svalinanikola 10 years ago

You would use the lighter on a wet branch (because of the melted snow)? Also, you simply can't set the branch on fire like that even if it's dry enough, you need something else to make the fire last.

[–] xXRandomnessXx 10 years ago

I'm surprised no one brought up urine as a method.

Don't take me up on this but peeing melts snow right (as long as it's daylight & not super duper freezing). Get all three of them to pee (sorry, Parker) in a certain area THEN jump off the chair lift with "perfect aim" onto the pee spot. Ta-Daaa!

Second option, using jackets or ski/snow board on the cable to the nearest chair lift/pole. I'm not too keen on this idea as you need to factor in weight & distance here but the director missed out on this idea when it was in their faces.

Third option, Parker's lighter & the clothings (doesn't need to be the thermal stuff but little objects like scarfs, beanies etc. Create a smoke signal.

Fourth and stupid option, jump on the mean evil bad wolves that shouldn't be in this movie in the first place.

Did any of these strike as something you would do?

I don't know if I would even do anything if I were stuck on a chairlift but I would certainly think through my options first unlike they did.

[–] berichtausinterzone 9 years ago

jumping

I'm surprised no one brought up urine as a method. Don't take me up on this but peeing melts snow right (as long as it's daylight & not super duper freezing). Get all three of them to pee (sorry, Parker) in a certain area THEN jump off the chair lift with "perfect aim" onto the pee spot. Ta-Daaa!

what could they possibly gain from landing in peed on snow???

The ground would be just as hard with or without snow on it.

one reason why sliding down the cable could have been just as fatal is friction heat; Whatever they could've used to make a "zip line" should've been metal. I see a chance that plastic might work for a very short distance and low weight.
I wouldnt rule it out, but really, people bragging they would have fashioned something out of their skiboots really quick...lol. Also something to fasten yourself to your improvised carabiner/Hook thing that's really able to hold your weight would be equally crucial.
And one important factor in the "zipline" survival strategy is this;
the next chair lift before the pole would 've stopped the carabiner ( really i must imagine a carabiner, because i cant imagine a plastic ski bootstrap /successfully holding on to a ski strategy), they must manage a complicated manaeuver to overcome that obstacle.

ligthing their clothing on fire:
I'm quite sure it would be near impossible to get anything even lightly smoking, let alone sustain that smoke longer than 5 seconds so someone can actually see it.

[–] barrin21 9 years ago

And then you just have a soaking wet branch.

Jesus christ, have you people never been outside before?

[–] BrainGremlin 9 years ago

Or just hold off on jumping until it had been snowing for a while. Dan was trying to land on his feet, so obviously he wasn't expecting a cushioned fall at that point. After his death there was enough snow to cover him up. Probably not enough to avoid injury, but seems to beat most alternatives.

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[–] mrorange90-977-579879 9 years ago

so...it took you twenty minutes to come up with a way to die horribly. btw do you ski at the hellraiser ski slopes...I have skis and boots and not one hook on them your nuts. and yeah fighting off 5 starving wolves good luck. do not want you as a guide!

[–] songod-95003 9 years ago

Looks good on paper! Seriously, though, it is an option.

Factor in fear, which tends to cloud judgement, and no one is firing on all "thrusters" as they say in Star Trek.

[–] shaunwebb66 8 years ago

I don't think you understand the pure nastiness of a pack of wolves. They take down bigger and meaner animals. Much more so than a couple of puny human beings. They attack in packs, so you are getting it from every side. Let's just say there are no wolves; your plan still lacks significant logistical basis. I'm not going to go into every point, but basically you are pretty much screwed.

[–] freemanpatrick7 8 years ago

If Lynch had boned Parker right there on the chair lift at least they would have been a little warmer...for a while.

Warlock: What, like you're a big fan of the Fett?
McLane: No, I was always more of a Star Wars guy.