"Justice League writer Chris Terrio has offered new insight into how the early roadmap of the DCEU was established. According to Terrio, studio-mandated release dates, not story plans, dictated the release order of these DC movies."
https://www.ign.com/articles/justice-league-writer-criticizes-dceu-creative-roadmap
But sure, a great movie was made and Wheedon came in and single-handedly ruined it all....or something.
They went into the team up phase too soon to properly develop the characters.
shareI know they did it because they were trying to play catch-up with Marvel, which is the wrong way to go about it, but in some weird way I kind of respect the different approach. They rushed it, got criticized, but I think they also would have gotten shit for making a bunch of standalone movies for 4-5 years before the first team up, they would have been criticized for copying Marvel. The idea of it wasn't a problem, the execution was.
shareThink the success of MCU absolutely cannot be replicated. If you ask me DCEU was stuck between a rock and a hard place, rushing into team ups or have solo films before team ups to be call MCU knock offs.
Remember the old days were movies didn't have trilogies or shared universe teasing built into them, they had to be standalone, most of them were colossal hits and had some high demands for a sequel.
Now we've got back into just solo Batman movies with no shared universe teasing and shows we can't get out of Batman being the only DC movie franchise at WB.
I am baffled by the waves of hatred that are apparently being aimed at Whedon over this movie. Whedon has a proven track record of making great TV and movies, Snyder has a proven track record on making shit movies. But somehow a lot of people apparently think that Josh Whedon is to blame when he was tasked with cutting a 4 hour pile of crap into a watchable 2 hour movie after he came in right at the end of the production. Somehow after Snyder already made two horrible, horrible turds before Justice League, people have forgotten completely about that and are trying to convince themselves that it was Whedon that was to blame for the theatrical release being bad, despite the fact that even with 4 hours Snyder made a movie way worse than anything Whedon has done in his career.
shareYou just proved Whedon supporters are idiots. Whedon did NOT just re-edit, he rewrote and shot new footage. You are denying the user rating is much higher for Jack's JL.
shareWhy are you baffled? Wheedon was accused of something. It doesn't matter if he did it or not, he was accused. You get accused of something in modern society, you are done.
I do think this cut of JL was better, but it was also 4 fucking hours long.
This is because now that everyone has seen both films and now knows what choices Whedon made compared to Snyder, the vast, vast majority agree that nearly every choice Whedon made resulted in a worse film. I say this as someone who actually got some enjoyment out of the Whedon version when it first came out in theaters. Here is a simple but crucial scene that is a microcosm of Whedon's poor decision-making: the cornfield scene between Lois and Clark in which Clark regains his memory. This scene had already been fully shot by Snyder and was a beautiful, tender moment that needed no messing around with. For some reason, Whedon decided to reshoot the whole scene, with much weaker dialogue and the awful CGI removal of Cavill's mustache. The latter alone should have tipped Whedon off that he should have just stuck to what Snyder already shot, but that he went through with it anyway is astounding.
shareNOT WHEDON...THE STUDIO BROUGHT HIM IN TO FINISH,RESHAPE SNYDER'S MESS UNDER THEIR NOTES AND MANDATES...THEN,WITH THE BENEFIT OF FOUR YEARS TO APPRAISE THE REVIEWS AND MISTAKES OF THE WHEDON VERSION PLUS AN EXTRA 40 TO 60 MILLION BUCKS(DEPENDING ON REPORTS) TO MAKE CORRECTIONS...IS IT ANY SURPRISE SNYDER MANAGED TO MAKED A BETTER VERSION THAN WHEDON?....ESSENTIALLY SNYDER TURNED IN HIS BOOK REPORT,GOT IT GRADED,TOOK IT HOME AND EDITED IT AND HANDED IT IN AGAIN.
shareSnyder has publicly stated that he's never seen the Whedon version, so how can he make "corrections" to a cut of a film he's never seen? For him, this was about completing his original vision of the film. Even things like Steppenwolf's design were not "corrected," but restored to what Snyder's original vision was. The fact that the exact same Steppenwolf design was at the end of the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman is proof of that. Most importantly, everything about Snyder's version of the film looks, feels, and sounds entirely like his vision.
shareI STATED...4 YEARS OF REACTION AND REVIEWS TO THE WHEDON CUT OFFER A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS AND TIPS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
TO BE CLEAR I THINK SNYDER'S CUT IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE WHEDON CUT...THAT SAID THE SNYDER CUT IS STILL MEDIOCRE AND FOREVER LONG TO BOOT.
Let's see Snyder's 2 hour cut and compare that to whedon's 4 hour cut after he has 4 years and 70 million to play with.
LOL.
I mean, that's 100% obvious. It's like Lost when JJ Abrams claimed it was all planned out and then one of the other writers was interviewed and said, "No." It's obviously not.
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