Is Horror Dead? A Poll...


I have continued to watch The After Dark Horrorfest, for the last 2 years.

I've been almost entirely disappointed, but being a young aspiring filmmaker, I'm intrigued by these experiments in low budget territory and I realize that films have a lot of obstacles to overcome.

I just barely started watching this years festival with Perkins 14,(I'm about 30 minutes into it) and it feels like 8th graders making a parody of a psychological thriller. Who knows, maybe it will turn around, but I'm doubtful.

Obviously everyone here has some opinion about modern horror films, and so I'm posting this as a poll to gauge your thoughts on the state of horror today. I'm currently working on my own sci-fi/horror film, and so your input is greatly appreciated.

Answer any or all of these:

1. What do you think makes a good horror film? Cite examples.

2. What are your favorite horror films of the last 5 years? Be honest!

3. What do you think needs to be improved? (Be specific not just "writing, acting, etc.")

Thanks in advance, and I hope to get some thoughtful answers from you guys, and will eventually write some of my own.

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Sure, this poll is over a year old, but I'll post here anyway.


1. What do you think makes a good horror film? Cite examples.

1) ambiguity. Sure, a predictable slasher is fun every now and then, but the real great horror comes from the unknown. Perfect examples include 'Paranormal Activity' and 'The Blair Witch Project' where you never actually see the "phantom." For me, great horror lacks cheesy ending explanations.
2) scenery. No matter how "bad" a horror movie is, I can still watch it if it has great scenery. Examples include 'The Dark' (with maria bello and sean bean) and 'Wicked Little Things'


2. What are your favorite horror films of the last 5 years? Be honest!

in no particular order:
-Paranormal Activity
-The Mist
-28 Weeks Later
-Trick 'r Treat
-1408


3. What do you think needs to be improved? (Be specific not just "writing, acting, etc.")

Hard to say, because this question suggests that every horror movie is the same...They just need to stay "fun." I likes me a serious one every now and then, but usually I watch horror movies just because they are fun.



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Is this movie supposed to be horror?!?!

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Orginality is key to making a good horror film. Even in slasher films, if the killer is unusual, or has an unusual killing method, like Freddy and Jigsaw, this definitely keeps me interested.

Also, the script has to be smart. No more stupidity in horror films, like when the victims choose to run up the stairs instead of out the front door, or worse, unbelievable scenarios that don't hold up to more than ten seconds of intellectual scrutiny.

My favorite movies in the last five years are Trick r Treat, Triangle, Black Swan, The Uninvited, and Silent Hill.

The quality of the scripts needs to be addressed overall. The budgets spent on special effects have gone up, but there seems to be a dumbing down of the scenarios that take place in the horror films, which I've mentioned before. Casting is also an issue.

As attractive as beautiful women are, I think there should be more geniuine actors in horror movies. After all, the best "final girls" like Jamie Lee Curtis, Signourney Weaver, were great actors.

Hollywood should be begging Japanese and Korean film-makers to inject some new life into horror stateside. Lord knows we need it.

I got five on it!

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1. What do you think makes a good horror film?

See that's a tough one, it depends on the audience you are trying to scare. Home invasion/real world scenario style horror is good for playing on paranoia. Movies like "the descent" or found footage films are good for playing on people's fears of the dark and claustrophobia. You could go supernatural if you are aiming to scare those who believe that, but it's a tough nut to sell because of the number of horrors you see in the news.

Can't answer two because I haven't found a good one. Well outside Megan is missing, but that's only because I think it falls outside your 5 year definition.

3. Writing, specifically empathy. The best card a horror writer has in their deck is to endear the audience to their characters. The more connected an audience member is to the character, the more they'll feel a sense of fear when a character they like is in danger.

But in my personal opinion, the biggest way to help the horror industry is to forget Eli Roth's style. His characters have no depth to them, they are all the same. Douchebags who get in trouble while trying to party, this does not create depth, this is one depressed turds mentality on what his audience is composed of. Further, he thinks Gore = scary. It does not, it can be used to add tension to characters who the audience has connected to. But it should NOT be the sole method to your film's sense of fear. You need atmosphere, tension, and likable characters in peril.

That's my thought on the current state of horror. Hope this helps and good luck.

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I completely agree with you on number 3, and the Eli Roth comment.

I haven't seen Megan is Missing. I hear it's very disturbing.

If you have to go outside the 5 year limit, what would you list as your 10 favorite?

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Well, kind of sort of, really it's the last twenty minutes that'll scar you(viewer warning: the last twenty minutes contain extremely graphic portrayals of murder and rape). The rest of the movie is creepy in that PA way, meaning you have to turn up the volume and watch very closely, especially the background. It is a tad slow in the middle, but I'd still advise it, but if movies with portrayals of sexual assault disturb you (like 'last house on the left') I'd skip the last 20, although those last 20 minutes will slam the point they were trying to make home.

As for my 10 favorite horror movies. Now that's a tough one, see i'm a bit into the old school horror. Movies like Nosferatu, The Mummy (1932), the hammer horror movies, stuff like that still gives me chills, so do movies like Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm street (the original for both, not the remakes or sequels). So narrowing it down to top 10 is tough. But here goes:

10: Megan is missing - It has it's flaws (a lot of them, mostly the performances) but is still a pretty chilling movie story wise. However while I don't place it that high in my list, it's still pretty creepy and worthy of a spot in my top 10.

9: The Shining: I loved Kubrick's whole play on the psychosis angle, is John really being haunted or is he just going insane. Although I think the psychic child angle was for the birds, it does allow for some creepy visuals.

8: Friday the 13th part one: It's a slasher, but it was a good slasher. Nothing really supernatural, the characters while being the usual slasher victims by today's standards weren't common in big theater releases of the time. Usually you'd have to go to a small time theater that played the old Z-grade slasher films. The attacker isn't a supernatural monster either but a vengeful mother, that's what really helped it stand out from the pack of slashers that would come later.

7: Misery - another Stephen King adaptation, what really stood out for me was Kathy Bates's performance. While her psychotic moments were, well, crazy, it's really her calm moments that really drive up the tension. This is because you know she has a hair trigger and at any moment, anything can set her off. You don't know what will set her off and that's what keeps you on the edge of your seat.

6: Paranormal Activity - Now granted paranormal activity wasn't the first to do found footage idea. You could say that goes to Blair Witch or even further back than that if you kept up with older films. But this is a case of taking an idea and fixing what was wrong. The atmosphere is creepy, there's very little shaky cam which was a huge complaint from audiences of BW. But the best thing they did that the sequels seemed to forget more and more as they continued. The scary isn't happening front and center, for the most part it's off camera and you know it's happening, but you can't see it, playing on the fear of the unknown. Now after the first time it's like a spook house, you already know what the scares are going to be. But that first time you go through, every scare is like an event and you're waiting for the next one.

5: Ringu/Ju-on - No that's not a typo, and yes they both hold the same spot. I can't decide between these two Japanese horror movies. Both were scary in their own way, although the ghost is essentially the same (you know the long haired woman/girl in a white dress). I guess it's really the atmosphere, they did all the scares at the right moment with the right timing. It's hard to explain, but if you watched the remakes then go watch these two you can quickly see why the common complaint is that the remake didn't hold a candle to the originals.

4: Carved - God damn is Kuchisake-onna scary as hell! I don't even know why, after all the horror movies I've seen every time I watch this movie I get chills. If I had to pin it down, it's because of the victims. In most horror movies it's always adults or teenagers getting the ax. This is one of the few movies where kids are the vicims. You can't help but be scared for these kids under attack from a vengeful spirit. Beware: if you're in Japan and a woman wearing a trench coat and surgical mask asks you "Am I pretty?" choose your next words wisely or you might face the wrath of Kuchisake-onna.

3: The Exorcist - What do I have to say about this one that hasn't been said before. The atmosphere, performances, story all truly equal one movie horrifying enough to have audiences run out of the theater screaming.

2: 2001: a space odyssey - "Now wait a minute, that's science fiction right." I hear others saying. True, but hear me out, just because it's not in the horror genre doesn't mean it can't hold a horrifying character or concept. In both those categories HAL is scary as hell. First, unlike all the monsters we know and love, HAL is a machine, completely logical, 0 emotions, or weakness's (save for it's mainframe), the pinnacle of mankinds technological advancements. That is until it determines that the human's onboard the ship are a hindrance to the mission. Then it uses everything it's equipped with to terminate the hindrances. That's what makes HAL scary, you don't know what's going on behind the glowing, ominous, ever present, red dot, all you know is that whatever it's up to can't be good for the crew.

1: Psycho - Man, here's another that I have nothing to say that hasn't been said a hundred times. The story is absolutely nerve chilling, Norman Bates is down right horrifying, the ending is (or was) truly terrifying mostly because this was during the era of the "Hollywood ending". For those unaware, a "Hollywood ending" is a term for the mandate put out that at the end of a movie the monster must be destroyed. So to see a film where not only is it heavily implied that the Monster (Bates) will get off scott free, but may well live on to murder others was an absolutely horrifying idea to leave audiences with. But the Norman Bates character as a whole is absolutely terrifying. His dissociative identity disorder was portrayed so well that you really are left guessing right to the end if he's the killer or if he's just a helpless pawn in someone more sadistic's plot. Even rewatching it, you just get nervous watching Norman because you know how unstable and crazy he really is. Everything in this movie left me just absolutely horrified every time I watch it. Well I guess I did have something to say.

Well there's my top 10, now while I did say that I liked the old universal and hammer horror films, some of the effects and cinematography ends up being humourous and keeps me from putting it above 10. Just consider them my 11 - 15 slots.

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