ONLY A TRUE SOCCER FAN CAN APPRECIATE - The Damned United (2009) Discussion

[–] al_bared 15 years ago

Mate first of all if ur a TRUE SOCCER fan as u claim and a man utd fan u won't call it SOCCER its called FOOTBALL OR FOOTIE, did u hear them say soccer in hte movie its an American word and the game isn't American.

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[–] jessieron 15 years ago

Mate first of all if ur a TRUE SOCCER fan as u claim and a man utd fan u won't call it SOCCER its called FOOTBALL OR FOOTIE, did u hear them say soccer in hte movie its an American word and the game isn't American.

I was thinking exactly the same thing.It should be football,not soccer.Apparently the OP wasn't aware of that so how could he/she be a true fan.

Like other posters said,it's a great film and you don't need to be a football fan to appreciate it.What the OP said is absolutely misleading.

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[–] LtColonelBartlett 15 years ago

Though I prefer calling the game football the term 'soccer' actually does originate from Britain rather than the USA.

The story goes that in the late 19th century England, a chap called Charles Wreford Brown was asked if he was going to play 'Rugger' (Rugby Football) after his studies. Brown replied that he was going to play 'Soccer' - his new nickname for Association Football. Who knows whether this really happened, but whether Wreford Brown was the originator or not, the term 'soccer' was coined in Britain & its perfectly correct to use either football or soccer.

Soccer of course is the favoured term in the USA to differentiate it from American Football though I've always wondered why they didn't call it American Rugby!

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[–] baldrickadder 10 years ago

Sorry Al_bared, it is not just an American word, I was born very early sixties and can always remember either calling it Footie, Soccer or Togger . Perhaps you are too young to remember when it was also called Soccer by us Brits, but it was before we seemed to have become snobby about the Americans calling it as such. Incidentally do you ever watch Saturday Soccer Special on Sky Sports?

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[–] Chops-4 15 years ago

You're wrong Puppy. I don't care much for sporting events in general, but I enjoyed this film. I am wondering if the contention between Clough and Revie had anything to do with class? A lot of Brits are still hung up about that sort of nonsense.

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[–] TrevorReznick 14 years ago

"I am wondering if the contention between Clough and Revie had anything to do with class?"

I don't see how.

They were both working-class guys from the same place in Yorkshire, weren't they?

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[–] nova-63 12 years ago

CLOUGH = LEFT
REVIE = RIGHT

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[–] baldrickadder 10 years ago

""I am wondering if the contention between Clough and Revie had anything to do with class?"

I don't see how.

They were both working-class guys from the same place in Yorkshire, weren't they? "

It not where you start it's were you finish. In my eyes, there more then one kind of class. But yes I do agree with your statement in this case.

I think the contention between Clough and Revie, was more about the way Cloughie was always calling the way Leeds played, Cloughie was always quite vocal in this. It would have surely wind Revie up. Personally I agreed with Cloughie, although I would have only been around 11 or 12 at this time, it was clear to see what Clough meant.

Then again if my team were doing well, I wouldn't mind how they did it.

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[–] samanthaseaotter 15 years ago

You are wrong. The reason the film succeeded is because it is a magnificent study of a human being, his faults and eccentricities.

It just happened to have sports in it.

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[–] chrismartonuk-1 15 years ago

Both Revie and Clough were working class. Revie's joiner father was unemployed in the great depression of the 30's. It's mentioned in the film they grew up a few streets away - but several years difference between them. Middlesbrough was a thriving indusrtrial centre in the 40's and 50's when Clough was growing up.

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[–] Stanley-6 15 years ago

I am not a fan of the sport, but I liked this film a lot. Sheen's performance is especially good. Such a fun and convincing portrait of arrogance. What Clough did while running Leeds United is not entirely about the sport. It is about the kind of man he is. He is very much like a guy that starts a new relationship with the ex-partner of some guy that he regards with hatred and/or jealousy, then destroys the relationship by obsessing over her previous relationship. It has happened to several people that I know. Inadequacy transcends sports.

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[–] biscuitsANDbitchs 15 years ago

* football fan and dont u forget it dont argue with me we invented so its called FOOTBALL !!

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[–] oneinchwalrus 13 years ago

Makes it seem like the OP's trolling, by calling it soccer, and saying 'only a true soccer fan can appreciate it'. Football fan* British film, set in Britain, ergo football.

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[–] el-passo 13 years ago

You're talking a load of bollocks. Firstly, there are a lot of people who don't enjoy the sport, but they did enjoy this film. This is about the relationships and troubles of the people involved, NOT the actual sport itself. Secondly, it is called FOOTBALL.

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[–] LtColonelBartlett 13 years ago

el-passo, I too prefer to call the game football, but soccer in an acceptable term that is of 19th century British origin. The Americans used the term soccer to differentiate it from American Football.
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[–] temukamacca 13 years ago

I disgree completely with the OP's statement. I'm absolute rugby league fan through and through but i loved this movie and loved looking back how this story line played out back then.

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[–] mac_alain 12 years ago

Sweeping statement. And you are wrong.

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[–] Spoffdarko 10 years ago

What's Soccer?

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