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Slight flaw in the logic of the doughnut experiment.


Wondering if anybody else thought of this... If you ask me, there was a slight flaw in the logic of the doughnut experiment. (And I'm not just talking about what Tom points out later in the movie.)

In the marshmallow experiment with the children, the kids were given a marshmallow and told they were free to eat it, but if they waited 20 minutes without eating it, the guy would come back and give them a second marshmallow.

However, with the doughnut experiment with the adults... all the every told them was that the doughnuts in the room were stale, but somebody would come replace them with fresh doughnuts in 20 minutes.

...Nobody said to the adults "IF you do not take any of the stale doughnuts, we will replace them in 20 minutes with fresh doughnuts." There was no consequences for taking the stale doughnuts. So, first off, some people may simply have not taken the stale doughnuts because they don't want to eat stale doughnuts, not due to any patience or whatever.

But, more importantly...

What if somebody thought "Hmm...they are probably going to throw the stale doughnuts out anyway. If I eat a stale one now, I can also have a fresh one when they come back." Heck, for that matter, my personal thought process may have been something along the lines of "You know, they will probably just throw these doughnuts out. Plus, I bet the stale doughnuts aren't that bad. If I eat a stale one now, I can take a fresh one for the road to save for later."

So, if you ask me, the experiment was flawed. The children's experiment was very simple. They were told that they could eat the marshmallow, but would get two if they did not eat it until he got back. They were given a potential reward that they would only get if they exercised patience. This was not properly re-created with the adults.

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I know this is going to sound crazy, but hear me out. What if... listen to me. What if someone PREFERRED stale donuts to fresh ones? What if that is why they got one instead of waiting? Sometimes I am a real weirdo and prefer my pizza when its room temperature, maybe even cold. Some people are just like that.
Or, what if someone just CANT stand to watch food get wasted. They know the donuts will be thrown out if they are not eaten, so they eat them. I know some people like that.

Unless they interviewed them afterwards there is no way to know WHY they got a stale one. You cannot just assume it was because they were impatient.

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Been mentioned already but yeah the professor later admits its a dumb experiment saying he would never even have considered it if one of the other assistants brought it up.

Also when Segel blows up during the phone call about how she judged him for eating the stale donut, he makes a lot of good points. He doesn't know fresh donuts are actually coming, so why hold off on eating a "stale" donut now. And he likes the "stale" donuts anyways. I myself would never throw away a donut that's a day old what a waste.

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