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Silly premise all wrong: J-Police would NOT shoot/kill suspect


First of all, I love this film. And it really should have been in 3D. Man that would have been awesome.

However, as someone who has lived in Japan (Tokyo) and is well aware of their strict anti-drug laws, un-leniant criminal sentencing structure and borderline-racist immigration policies, I found the whole premise of this movie (cops shoot unarmed kid suspected of dealing drugs) so absurb and laughable that it almost ruined the movie for me.

Anyone familiar with Japanese culture and/or law can tell you that Japanese police would never, ever, ever, ever shoot at a suspect just because of drugs, and certainly not blindly through a door. It categorically would never happen.

Also, the part about the Japanese police lying that Oscar was carrying a gun was beyond stupid. The Japanese are the one if not only culture we can trust NOT to lie, especially the police. And even if they did, there were so many witnesses there to refute them. And how could they produce a stolen gun with prints at the very last moment? No, the Japanese might be cruel and heartless, but they are not dirty liars.

All the director had to do was swap out the police with the yakuza, then the story line would have been perfectly believeable.

I just can't believe that no one has pointed out the profound implausibility of the premise of this film. Not even the Japanese press. And I am surprised that the Japanese permitted it in their theaters.

Read this article for more info about cops and guns in Japan if you don't want to take my word for it:

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Contr ol.htm

"The police carry guns, but rarely shoot them, instead using their black belts in judo or police sticks. In an average year, the entire Tokyo police force only fires six shots...In a top-down society such as Japan, when the government disarms itself, it creates a powerful moral climate for citizens to do the same."

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Anyone familiar with Japanese culture and/or law can tell you that Japanese police would never, ever, ever, ever shoot at a suspect just because of drugs

i can't comment on how realistic or unrealistic the situation is, but the cops didn't shoot oscar "just because of drugs", they shot him because he screamed he had a gun and threatened to use it (which was pretty stupid of him, granted).

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It was very unrealistic. I lived in Japan for 15 years. Cops almost never pull out their guns, and even rarer do they understand English well enough to shoot. However, I suspended a bit of disbelief to enjoy the film (which I did).

The other part, where they check Alex's room and find his gear? They wouldn't have just left after that. The roommate would likely have gone down with him.

The part where the OP is totally wrong is the one about trusting the police. Japan's police force is famous for coerced confessions (Google it). Lying about what happened would be par for the course. Anything to keep the "harmony" of the public.

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You are 100% freaking correct, man. This was the one thing of the film that I hated. Not only did the Japanese police shoot the guy, but they did so BLINDLY through a door. That was just purely nonsensical. That would never happen in Japan. Like you said, it would've been totally plausible if it were the Yakuza, but it wasn't. It would have taken like two seconds of research to avoid a blunder like this.

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It wasn't because he had drugs, it was because he yelled at them that he had a gun in there with him. That's different. That's a threat of violence.

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I found the whole premise of this movie (cops shoot unarmed kid suspected of dealing drugs) so absurb and laughable that it almost ruined the movie for me.

Anyone familiar with Japanese culture and/or law can tell you that Japanese police would never, ever, ever, ever shoot at a suspect just because of drugs, and certainly not blindly through a door. It categorically would never happen.
Because all Japanese police are angels and always follow the book to the letter in all of their procedures. 

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Which points back to the whole thing is a trip. Well spotted I didnt really think about this.

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