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100 things to know about the movie Dune


1- 8000 years into the future and people use swords as weapon

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That was explained in the book. Fields can stop anything that comes with enough energy. Bullets can't reach you. You wanna kill somebody wearing a field, you must use a sword.

But that's not all. You must attack in slow motion, otherwise your blade will be stopped. That's why duels can take so long: both parts keep fighting until one of them can make a successful attack slow enough to cross the field and kill.

In the book, Paul has been trained to fight that way. In his first duel in Freemen territory, without fields, he's way superior to his opponent. But since he's been trained to attack that way, the freemen think that he was toying with him, like a cat with a mouse, before doing the final blow.

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But missiles and explosions seem to be able to kill people, at least ships. So not all the details make sense.

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That happens in the book too. Your field can stop a bullet, it can't stop a rocket launcher. You need to attack slow enough to go through the field, or big enough to wipe it out.

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And you are surprised why???

The kinetic energy alone would be enough to kill someone with a shield, no need for something to penetrate it.

Makes 100% sense.

Think of a bulletproof vest: it will stop the bullet but the you WILL feel the kinetic energy. Enough energy and your internal organs would be badly damaged.

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Don't buy it. Weak and lame excuse. The father shield was penetrated easily.

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That is just the Dune world as explained by the book. There is a lot of nonsense - mostly nonsense in the book, but somehow it worked at the time and not only that was highly lauded and very popular.

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That's a problem with fight coreos, not with how the shield works ... they should had put more attention to those details.
In some of the fights you can see a slowness of the killing attack, in most not so much.

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The duke was shot by something in the back.
Dune was a funny book in that it has the most ridiculous fantasy ideas, Sandworms and ornithopters ... and body shields, etc. It was totally unrealistic in terms of Science Fiction, and yet the world Herbert creates was so compelling you just ignore all that and go with it.

They had the Weirding way in the book. Also ... light must be able to penetrate the shields of they could not see in or out, so why not use energy laser weapons? I have to agree with both of you, the sword and knife fights are silly, but it played well in the book, and somehow even added to it.

Go figure!?

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"Also ... light must be able to penetrate the shields of they could not see in or out, so why not use energy laser weapons?"

the shields are not that much about speed as about energy (I think). A sword at a high speed has a different energy than the same sword of low speed.
Normal light has low amounts of energy, lasers have huge amounts, so light can penetrate while lasers would not ...

Beside that in the book is explained that a laser gun hitting the shield would create a mini-nuke that would kill everything on a large scale, including the shooter.

https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Shield

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The duke was shot by something in the back.

In the novel the duke was drugged, captured and eventually killed. Obviously, the kidnappers removed his field and weapons.

Dune was a funny book in that it has the most ridiculous fantasy ideas, Sandworms and ornithopters ... and body shields, etc. It was totally unrealistic in terms of Science Fiction

I don't see why. Yeah, it's not hard scifi or military scifi, but it doesn't feel that strange in a more general scifi context.

They had the Weirding way in the book. Also ... light must be able to penetrate the shields of they could not see in or out, so why not use energy laser weapons?

Well, that's right. But non-hard scifi authors, you're always gonna find a few ones like that.

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Because physical mechanisms that work at the small scale, for example that allow an ant to life many times its body weight simply do not work when you try to scale them up. Same with the ornithopter dragonfly wings. Imagine trying to vibrate wings 30 feet long like that.

Yeah, but as a great a story as Dune was, it was totally full of stuff like that.

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2. Pitch is critical.

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3. In the year 10000 whatever, people have kids VERY early. Jessica is only 12 years older than Paul.

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In the book she was 21 years old when she gave birth to Paul ...

Paul was supposed to be 15 but ... well, he doesn't look 15 ...

Jessica as a BG uses spice, which keeps the body younger.

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I know but the actress is only 12 years older and I was makin' a funny. 😜

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4- the protagonist is mature for his age unless he needs to run like a little boy in ecstasy to greet acquaintances.

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LOL

Timothy Challumet was not a believable Paul Atreides to me. Oddly enough, I didn't really go much for the 1984 movie, but I did think Kyle McLaughlin was pretty close to what I thought Paul would be like in bearing and attitude.

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5- huge sand monsters waste energy moving around only to eat a couple humans. That's like a human sprinting through a forest looking for a few ants to eat.

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Sandworms don't eat humans. Attacking them is more like territory stuff, they don't accept other living being in their turf.

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