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It's a trick (Same old Sloppy Joe, now on a silver platter)


I realized something watching the second episode. I have been amazed at the visual quality which really takes you into a film-like experience. The fight choreography and effects have also been well above what we have come to expect from the CW DC shows But what else is there? Imagine you are watching it without that visual step up. Imagine it's the flatter CW style. Take away the lighting and effects and is this really any better than season 3 or Arrow?

It reminded me a lot of that moment when Arrow had slipped from being a gritty and daring show and fell into being a soap opera with cheesy villains. Before it became complete hot garbage and still had some of the shine from its first season, and just before it became a complete Saturday morning cartoon/Days of Our Lives fusion.

We've already gotten: Eastern European organzied crime, scrappy hard question reporter, teen angst, hokey evil businessman, love triangle setups, hero questioning if he should put personal life above the exponentially greater good they do saving lives, etc. Some of these things can exist in a good show, but add them all up and it equals a CW superhero show.

Don't take my word for it. Next episode pretend the flashy cinematography isn't there and ask yourself it it's really any better than what the CW have already been serving up.

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No, to put it succinctly! I’m not too thrilled with it. I gave up on Arrow after the 2nd season. I gave Supergirl one season. Flash...maybe four. The one show I did enjoy was “Reign”. I hated to see it go.

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Hey! Sloppy Joes are good. CW shows are Shitburgers. Please edit your headline.

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With the new episodes (May 2021) I can feel the cheesy CW creep already happening. Freak of the week-ish and lots of other trappings slipping in. They really tried to sell this as different. The cinematography was great the first episode, and still kind of is, but even that is feeling more like just a color filter dropped onto a Supergirl episode. We'll see how it goes but I am expecting the worst at this point.

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I tuned into a random episode. Looked slick but that was definitely classic CW soap opera writing. The pacing was obnoxiously slow as well. I really liked the Lois actress.

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That's exactly the thing. They slicked up the usual CW tripe. Soap opera + cheesy "everyone can get powers easily" nonsense. Really ruins the gravity of the Superman concept when powers just drop out of the sky so easily.

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Surprises me it's being so well received. I think people just love Superman. The ep I saw was all about the kids so Superman didn't do much.

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That Superman Goodwill is what is helping them. Using Snyderesque cinematography is also helping them along. But it's kind of falling apart and anyone with a keen eye can see the CW nonsense underneath. It's slightly better acted (by the main) but the writing is clearly from the same clowns.

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It'll get worse every season like all their shows. Soon the fans will abandon it in droves.

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