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Lex being black makes no sense


Since when have the Arrowverse characters ever run into alternate universe versions of themselves that are a different race.Does this mean Black lightning has some white lightning versions of himself out there.SJW pandering just like Jimmy Olsen.Also makes no sense that Lex Luthor is playing the hero on any earth.

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"SJW! Woke!" Blah f*cking blah! You'd think people would get bored of this predictable, alt right-esque whining. Lex Luthor has been depicted as black before and it didn't bother me, nor does it when he was depicted as a white guy most other times as it just isn't a particularly important aspect of to the character, much less with a Jimmy Olsen.

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Well if studios stop with their constant SJW shoehorning ridiculousness i'll stop complaining about it.And i guess being black isn't an important aspect of black lightnings character.Or is a characters race only important when their not white.I honestly don't care about the ethnicity of a cast.As long as i'm entertained they can make the show as black as they want but show some originality instead of lazilly piggybacking onto white characters.Race swapping characters is the laziest form of diversity because it involves zero originality.

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"SJW shoehorning ridiculousness" with those harboring angst consistent with alt reich worldview, certainly. Black Lightning looks like an absolutely terrible show & he could be orange for all I care. 9 out of 10 times "race swapping" involves non white characters being portrayed as white and most of the time, no one cares

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"race swapping" involves non white characters being portrayed as white and most of the time, no one cares"

Race swapping involves altering the ethnicity of any character not just black characters and i'm not a fan of it in general.And fans of these characters weather they are white or black always care.You think people would be OK with a white Shaft or a white Black panther.Because those would annoy me even more than this does.






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I've noticed how often people parroting these alt right talking points almost always use really bad false equivalency examples. "This is just like making a movie about Malcolm X starring a white guy!" Their being black is actually an important aspect to the characters of Shaft and Black Panther especially. There's nothing intrinsic to characters of Lex Luthor & certainly Jimmy Olsen that suggests that all version of these otherwise fairly static characters should be white. It can however potentially become more of an issue with central & iconic characters like Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent as any alterations can have more significant repercussions than with static supporting characters.

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"There's nothing intrinsic to characters of Lex Luthor & certainly Jimmy Olsen that suggests that all version of these otherwise fairly static characters should be white."

Lex Luthor is not a side character.He is an iconic character in the Superman universe.He is as iconic a villain as Superman is a hero.And Shafts being black is about as important as Dirty Harry being white.But i'll bet the alt-left SJW fanatics would cheer on a black Dirty Harry and call it progressive.

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I didn't say Lex Luthor was a side character. He is however a static villain character whose baldness is a far more noteworthy characteristic than being white. His every now and then being portrayed as something other than white is simply has no significant impact to the character. Shaft is a character specifically conceived in the "Blaxploitation" genre to reflect the black experience on social & political issues i.e. the character being black in this instance is quite necessary. Like i said, a very poor example, as it's a definite false equivalency.

Dirty Harry is at least somewhat more of a credible comparison to Shaft than the nonsense of black Lex Luthor ≠ white Shaft. Also there's literally no such thing as the "alt left". That's just an Alt right, white supremacist type's talking point equivalent of "I know you are but what am I".

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"SJW! Woke!" Blah f*cking blah! You'd think people would get bored of this predictable, alt right-esque whining.


They're no more annoying than the leftie dullards who keep whining about tv shows and films, old and new. "Friends starred six white people. Racism!" Wah wah wah. Hollywood insists on shoehorning things into everything so they can tick a few boxes, and the dullards who rant and rave on Twitter 24/7 can feel morally superior when they watch the nonsense.

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I'm not a fan of Hollyweird culture or its so called "leftie" politics but frankly, around here it's like 90% petty alt right-esque, "anti sjw/anti woke" garbage which is even worse.

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Jon Cryer has been portraying Lex in the Arrowverse. What happened?

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Maybe their trying to distance themselves from Supergirl.Tonewise the 2 shows are very different.

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Is Captain Luthor supposed to be Lex? I haven't watched the second episode yet.

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Yes.

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I just watched the second episode. The name "Lex Luthor" has never been said yet so far in the show. Many reviews have speculated that it's not Lex.

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This is NOT the prime universe Lex Luthor. As others have noted on this thread, that Lex Luthor is already portrayed by Jon Cryer. THIS "Captain Luthor" is clearly stated to be from another planet (one that Superman destroyed), which means he CAN'T be the ruthless business tycoon Lex Luther who hails from Earth. Where and when THIS "Captain Luthor" comes from is one of the elements that makes this show particularly intriguing. He might not even really be a "Luthor" at all. We want to see how it plays out.

And if this show was "woke", they'd be race swapping the HEROES (gotta make blacks good and white people bad), not the villains.

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Do you think it's possible the "other planet" the evil Superman destroyed was one of the other infinite Earths? Or do you think this Luthor is an alien in his universe and the evil Superman destroyed his planet?

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Sorry but color doesn't matter as much here. They cast a great actor and he isn't doing the whole ooo look at me I'm black and a victim skit.

I want a good show that doesn't try and program me, and that shows good humor, acting, and strong moral fiber.

He's a Lex from an alternate timeline. That covers the blackness, and I'm okay with that as long as it makes sense within the universe, and story.

The show isn't a wokefest, has great acting, a good story, and everything just makes sense. I like it.

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Agreed, except he isn't the Lex Luthor of his universe, his name is Henry something.

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I was surprised.It looked like they were going in the same old tired CW woke direction and then they went and did something unexpected and original.

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Just admit you're an idiot and jumped on the anti-diversity outrage bandwagon.

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Making Lex black is actually racist. The greatest super-criminal in this universe is a black man. Sounds like the same old sh!t.

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He looted a science lab to get kryptonite...so there's that.

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Yeah, if he's black man then he has to be a thief

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Well, Lex Luthor canonically IS a thief. And a murderer.

So your point is ...

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point is the producers black-washes the biggest criminal on the planet into a BLACK MAN.

Pretty damn racist.

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But they didn't. The guy in the show is NOT Lex.

Now, maybe you are sarcastic. Sorry for not catching it.

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always sarcastic! hard to catch without vocal inflections.

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It’s not Lex, it’s John Henry Irons aka Steel.

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Correct. The same superhero that Shaquille O’Neill played in a 1990s movie

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Priceless.

Isn’t the common complaint from the anti-woke crowd that white males are only portrayed as villains in modern entertainment? So now we have a black man playing the villain and it’s still “SJW pandering”.

Seems to me that some people are only happy if there’s no black people cast whatsoever.

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I came to write that same thing. it seems to be no matter what a studio does, its "woke" and they cry

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