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They changed the origin story-because a man can not save a woman

posted 2 years ago by einstein (2568)
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In the original origin story, she gets saved by the hulk who donates his blood to save her life, and she gets the hulk powers like that. But they had to change it, because that is super sexist, toxic masculinity, and a man saving a woman is just misogynistic bullshit, no woman needs a man saving her.

Sooo the new origin story in this series goes like this: SHE SAVES HIS LIFE NOW !! And gets infected by his toxic masculinity blood! HAhahaa this is actually true look it up!

[–] BrutaleBent (99) 2 years ago

That part was beyond stupid... And you're probably right in your "analysis", however cringe it might seem.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 2 years ago

I think you're spouting nonsense, but I'm actually horrified that they've changed how she gets it.

[–] alienzen (1931) 2 years ago

I just started watching it and had to come here immediately to vent my frustration.

Why?????

The scene made no sense.The only reason I was interested in this story was because of the origin part. And it is just "he bled on her" and she magically became a hulk? What stupidity is this? The blood transfusion makes more sense and would have had DRAMA. But no, apparently a TV series doesn't have time for origins and....fuck it. Can't believe I actually bothered: I already gave up on Marvel.

[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Doesn't Marvel usually change the origin stories?

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7734) 2 years ago

Not that much. Iron Man's and Captain America's origins were pretty faithful to the source material (except Obediah Stein's role in Tony's origin). I should be angry they changed She Hulk's origin but I won't let it ruin my enjoyment.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7734) 2 years ago

I just watched it and she had a large cut on her arm caused by the car accident that might have made her bleed to death if she hadn't gotten Hulk's blood. They seemed to be out in the middle of nowhere when the accident happened so by the time the ambulance had come and taken her to the nearest hospital, she might have died.

[–] AP (5288) 2 years ago

There are a lot of maybes that never got brought up in your take. I don’t think the writers intended for any of that.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7734) 2 years ago

I think they aren't good at portraying what they want to portray then. Jennifer had a huge cut that covered a large part of her arm. Why film it and write it that way if they don't want Jennifer to have been hurt and need Hulk's blood to live?

[–] AP (5288) 2 years ago

People can get huge cuts on their arms and legs and be fine. If it was deep enough to kill, she would have bled out almost immediately and wouldn't have had the strength to pull Banner free. The cut was there os that Banner would bleed into it and turn her into She-Hulk. That's it.

[–] javie (2216) 2 years ago

Did we need this show in the first place? The answer is no.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7734) 2 years ago

Frankly you maybe ignorant of comics but She Hulk has been a character in Marvel Comics since the late 70s and frankly some of us have wanted to see her adapted for a long time. But then again judging from your response you are probably one of those fools who hates Superhero movies and think they ruined the success of other genres of movies.

[–] movieLoader (116) 2 years ago

Reading the Wikipedia page for She-Hulk, it doesn't sound like the character was created in good faith or for genuine creative reasons. Marvel created She-Hulk so they would own the rights...

"Marvel was afraid that the TV show's executives might suddenly introduce a female version of the Hulk.... So Marvel decided to publish their own version of such a character to make sure that if a similar one showed up in the television series, Marvel would own the rights."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She-Hulk

The question "do we need this show in first place" can be reasonably answered with "no" when considering the history. It was never even close to the popularity of Hulk, and tries to do too much in terms of the whole attorney thing, and maintaining her personality when in hulk form. If anything, a female hulk should definitely have a changed personality when angry. It's odd they allowed her to stay the same, it makes it kind of boring. Where's the struggle? She seems to have no issues and just cruises along. That doesn't make good viewing.

[–] Kowalski (76257) 2 years ago

IRRELEVANT...THE REASON FOR CREATION IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THE CREATIVITY,STORY AND FAN SUPPORT THAT CAME IN THE 40 YEARS SINCE...I ALSO ENJOYED THE CHARACTER IN THE BOOKS AS WELL AS THE NEW SHOW.

ALSO...DO WE NEED THIS SHOW?...THAT'S FUCKING STUPID...WE DON'T "NEED" ANY SHOW.

[–] movieLoader (116) 2 years ago

Humans do need art and entertainment in a modern society.

Intention behind creativity is important. It lends to credibility and integrity... are you familiar with these concepts?

> "I ALSO ENJOYED...."

Your enjoyment is irrelevant. You probably enjoy picking corn out of your own shit.

She-Hulk has an athletic man's body, painted green. Her boobs should have shrunk, not grown larger. The character is flawed, the whole idea doesn't complement the Hulk at all. Created because an executive wanted a pre-emptive investment in TV rights.

[–] Kowalski (76257) 2 years ago

FLAWED BOOBS YOU SAY?...PICKING CORN FROM SHIT?...OH...OK...SO YOU'RE A DICKHEAD WITH NO ABILITY TO RESPOND RATIONALLY?

"Humans do need art and entertainment in a modern society."

DID NOT SAY WE DON'T...I SAID WE DON'T NEED ANY PARTICULAR SHOW.

"Intention behind creativity is important. It lends to credibility and integrity... are you familiar with these concepts?"

SURE...BUT IT ISN'T EVERYTHING...PLENTY OF WONDERFUL THINGS BEGAN FOR THE WRONG REASONS.

"Your enjoyment is irrelevant. You probably enjoy picking corn out of your own shit."

OK...EXCEPT YOU YOURSELF BROUGHT UP VIEWING QUALITY...OR ENJOYMENT...

"That doesn't make good viewing."

THEN YOU WENT ON A RANT ABOUT HER BODY AND ENDED WITH A "FUNNY" ABOUT HER DYING.

TRY HARDER.

[–] movieLoader (116) 2 years ago

You're ranting like a drunk driver, swerving all over the place smashing into parked cars, yelling insults out the window!

> WONDERFUL

Maybe what matters is how far we can stray from "wonderful" before the bad reviews come knockin.

> TRY HARDER

It's fun identifying cultural oversteer in big budget fiction TV. The snarky reviews are entertainment of their own. The nutcase comments like yours/mine all part of the fun. Hulk has thick skin so it's all good.

Regarding boobs... weight-lifting women sometimes see a reduced breast size as their physique gets super fit. Nothing wrong with that, it's an anatomical observation. In She-Hulk, her breasts get larger and she gets a ripped footballer body. It's all good, relax. I'm poking fun at a fictitious character in essence.

One thing I did like hearing about in the old comics was how sometimes she tore the pages to take shortcuts in the story, and other devices. I don't really want the series to drop into a volcano. Ok yes I do but she-hulk will survive.

[–] Kowalski (76257) 2 years ago

I STAND BY EVERY WORD I SCREAMED OUT THE CAR WINDOW....I LIKE THE SHOW AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7734) 2 years ago

Frankly although that is true I would argue she is a good character. I have enjoyed reading comics of her. I also enjoyed seeing her in the 80s and 90s Hulk cartoons.

[–] naDaht (1087) 2 years ago

I've only read a book or two, but they were great fun. She-Hulk is an excellent character. She could have been shyte, but she got good writers.