Okay, I feel the whole vengeance thing, but who could really blame the Asian lady? She picked a guy out of a lineup after being savagely beaten.
I could see him blaming the cop initially. It would look like he was in on it due to his relationship with the prosecutor, but he didn't know about the switch in evidence, so he clearly wasn't to blame.
Insurance guy was just doing his job. He didn't make the rules about no criminals. Seems pretty harsh to judge him for that.
Actually I think only the judge and the pederast deserved to die, it might be also the chinese lady because she mistakenly pointed the boy as the stealer, didn't she?
The cop, the insurance guy, the drug dealer, the thief or the guy that sell the gun, or even the priest, they have nothing to do with the death
why does everyone call him the "Insurance Guy"? I was under the impression that he worked for a pharmaceuticals company that had an experimental treatment for AIDS. The kid was not included in the test because of his criminal record.
You are all forgeting something. The cop is alot to blaim. He let his penis make him do his job wrong.
The cop deserves more blaim than your all giving(or not giving) him.
-He allowed her access to evidence she should not have had.
- A normal ADA doesn't get to go whereever she wants with hair from a crime scene.
-It is suppose to be giving to the lab and taken back from the lab by him, not let her have it to switch the contents.
-Evidence needs a clear chain of custody not "I gave it to the ADA and a few hours later she gave it back". He didn't sign the evidence out or the broken chain of custody would have gotten the evidence thrown out.
Sig: My spelling would be better, but my dictionary is broken.
Just watched this on netflix. The story was written by someone that was very confused and doesn't seem to understand the difference between an insurance salesman, a pharmaceutical salesman, and a person that runs an experimental clinical trial. The logic is also inherently flawed because if the son was taken into the trial it means that someone else would have been access to the experimental trial.
Christian got away from the robbery and couldn´t even know an innocent was taking his place; Jackson didn´t even know Kelley was messing the proof; Blaming Leon is the same as blaming the gun manufacturer; Sully is as guild as a bank or as the coin mint; Father Francis is forbidden by law to revel the crime; Eddie was forbidden by his boss to give the insurance, it was not his decision to make; Chan is an elderly woman, just was assalted and was not able to separete an ocidental person from another, of course a judge would take her as serious as child. Only Kelley and Coogan are guilty.
Jackson and Mrs. Chan are the most innocent. Jackson didn't even KNOW Kelley was rigging the evidence and Mrs. Chan picked out the wrong guy. Oh, and Eddie. He was following company policy. None of them ACTUALLY did something wrong. The Priest is too due to the whole "Can't reveal confessions" thing (Catholics take that stuff VERY seriously), though I suppose to the parent of a dead kid it wouldn't make a difference. But I'd give him a pass too. Sully and Leon are involved, but only marginally Christian was, but he clearly didn't intend for an innocent to take his place Kelley and Coogan are just horrible, horrible people
Kelly- actively guilty for setting him up, in a position of power and with responsibility to use it properly. Guilt level: 10
The rapist - another directly guilty person, actively harmed Wayne in a horrible way and caused pretty much everything together with Kelly. Still, enjoyable to watch (unlike Kelly). Gets .5 less then Kelly because he has problems and was never entrusted with a responsibility that makes the betray of it worse. Guilt level: 9.5
Christian (the guy who committed the crime) - responsible for the situation, but with no malicious intent, could have tried to stop the innocent person from being falsely accused. Guilt level: 8
The insurance guy - It's a nasty work, but I can see how he can feel innocent. He could have tried to beat the system and approve people like Wayne out of humanity. That is what the dad was saying, you start looking at people as numbers and doing your job, but it's wrong. When it was his family, he understood it. He knew that just doing his job means not allowing someone to live, criminal or not. Even if Wayne was a robber that was bs. Guilt level: 7.5
Chinese woman - since we heard nothing about her pov, it's hard to judge. She gave a wrong identification, the question is how urged she was by Kelly etc. Still, you shouldn't rush to identify when you're not sure, it's better to let a robber go then to accuse an innocent person. Guilt level: 6.5
The priest - the vow is understandable and he shouldn't betray Christian, but... Can;t imagine there was no way to still try to get the innocent guy out of prison though- he should have done everything he could apart from giving Christian's name. Tell the media, police, try to help Wayne somehow. His job is to be involved and try to do good, failure to care is *beep* Guilt level : 6
Leon (The black guy) - sure he is a criminal, but barely and totally indirectly involved. I guess he could be judged in a sense that everyone who does this type of crime enables these situations. Guilt level: 4
Sully - like Leon, very indirectly guilty, but it could be argued that people like that cause many bad things to happen (don't get me wrong, I love the guy). Guilt level: 4
The cop - innocent. He didn't do anything wrong, however it is understandable that the murderer didn't know that. Perhaps, he should have been more careful around the evidence, but it was difficult for him to assume what would have happened. Guilt level: 1.5
i don't understand how sully and the cop are not directly responsible, when a mop guy has reputation of killing people who don't pay their dept, and cop share evidence with girl friend!
Sully isn't responsible for Christian's lack of responsibility. The situation was fair, Christian got himself in debt and chose to deal with it by committing a robbery - he wasn't forced to do either. After the robbery he made a moral choice to allow an innocent man to be convicted for his crime. Like I said, the fact that people like Sully help create an environment where others do bad things does bring his guilt level to a 4, but he had *beep* to do with the specific situation that was a direct result of three choices Christian made, plus Kelly being content to go after the wrong person, and finally pedophile raping him and the insurance guy letting him die. Tracing consequences all the way back to Sully who didn't have a single intention towards Wayne means almost there is no personal responsibility at all anyone should take.
As for the cop, he was negligent, but there was no intent, even no idea that Kelly would do what she did. Her status and responsibilities combined with the fact he knew her personally (obviously not that she was capable of doing this) made it so he never even thought of not trusting her. Although looking at it now, I would raise his guilt level to a 3 because he had a responsibility he failed at, while still not really morally convicting him.
Even though they were jerks, Scully and the black guy were very far removed from the events that led to that kid's death. I couldn't help but feel it was unfair they were there.
I started thinking about this toward the very end.
To me, the guy who sold the gun seems the least culpable.
HOW ON EARTH could he know that the gun would be used to rob a liquor store, let alone that liquor store, and that the store clerk would inaccurately identify the perp, and that this wrongfully convicted man would be framed, then raped and given aids in prison, before being denied medical treatment and dying?!?!?
I guess I hold him least responsible since he seems so indirectly involved and his role had the littlest effect on the events to follow. Hell, Chan's optometrist is more to blame than him.