I often feel it's silly to wonder if something "actually happened" or not when it's a scene in a movie. In situations like this one, it's likely that the writer or director didn't even make a decision as to whether it was real or not, on purpose. The point is to make the audience as confused as the character in the movie, and make them feel what the character supposedly feels.
That said, Lily was obviously an evil biznatch, trying to do whatever she could to make sure Nina wouldn't be able to perform in the production, because she wanted the part. She drugged her, purposely kept her out as late as possible the night before opening, etc. And she even screamed at her when she saw her in the building. "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SICK!" She was angry as hell that Nina showed up despite her best efforts to prevent her from doing so.
On a related note, real or not, I believe the sex is what led Nina to do what the a-hole producer had been telling her the whole time, "lose yourself".
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ricky_says_hi
10 years ago
From what I gather, Lily never went back to the apartment with her. If you watch the scene closely, Erica never actually interacts with Lily. Lily mostly stays behind Nina and cheers her on when she talks to her mother. So after Nina 'wakes up' with the guy in the bathroom, you could assume that Lily either put her in a cab home or was just not there at all and only in Nina's imagination
I don't think Lily was really manipulative at all. I think she was just a little awkward in a new place and trying to make friends. Lily seems to show actual concern for Nina, talking to Tomas about going too hard on her and going to see her after their argument. The going out part seemed to be that Lily realised Nina was under the thumb of her controlling mother and wanted to do something nice for a girl she felt sorry for. And getting annoyed when Nina showed up to the performance...well the girl had just thought that she would be dancing the lead role of Swan Lake in the first ever performance since Beth's retirement. It's understandable that she'd be a bit annoyed that this chance had suddenly been yanked away from her. And she does apologise to Nina after the Black Swan performance
I'm gonna die of long hair!
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ruaridh321
9 years ago
I still think that there is a CHANCE they did actually sleep together.
However, as someone else pointed out, Lily WAS genuinely nice to Nina after the performance; so why would she have maliciously lied to her about the sex?
But then on the other hand, Lily DID keep Nina out late the night before and drug her. And also, she seems completely furious on the night of the show when Lily turns up ( "She wasn't supposed to be here!") so she clearly wanted the part badly.
I'm undecided.
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quantupulo
9 years ago
It's also possible that any reference to Lily wanting the part badly is purely imagined as well. I'm sure many of us have felt like people were angry when they really weren't. It could just be Nina's paranoia acting up.
I thought the sex scene was obviously imaginary, I mean think about it, how could she enter Nina's house with her scary mom, let alone be in her room with the door locked. She didn't seem particularly bicurious either.
The beauty of the film is it gives you plenty of leeway in determining what's real and not real.
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