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Did Nina freally die at the end?


Wouldn't the cast or audience have noticed blood on her costume, considering it was white, before the last act?

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You know, not everyone who visits this board has seen the movie. I have, but a better title for your thread might have been 'Spoiler question about the end'

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It's a message board...what did you expect...?

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As I pointed out in my reply, a 'spoiler' alert...the word's on a message board more than anywhere else.

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I agree, OP you should probably have written 'spoiler alert' in the subject line. It just good forum etiquette :)


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Sorry, anybody who is plain stupid enough to read the forum before watching the film deserves to be spoiled as a lesson learned.

I mean, c'mon what did you expect ??

This is a board for people who have seen the film and want to discuss it. So obviously we will talk about the film's plot. So I actually consider it good forum etiquette to NOT use spoiler alerts because they are just distracting noise.

If you really think you must get the opinion of folks having seen the movie BEFORE seeing it yourself, just go to IMDB's review section, there are literally hundreds of reviews. But don't think you can prevent the rest of us from discussing freely, ok.

Period.
End of discussion.

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The board implements a spoiler feature to hide spoilers. Obviously, it is meant even for people who have not yet seen the movie. It's just a matter of courtesy to others.

If the title had been "Question about the end - spoilers", I am sure that those who have seen it would know what it is about.

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You don't deserve courtesy if you're this stupid to read discussion before watching the film, people must learn with their mistakes

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If so, what is the use of the "spoilers" feature? You think the programmers implemented it out of boredom.

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THIS!

I wish I could like this comment x1000.

... this is a maid speaking by the way

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I agree wholeheartedly.

(Consider a review site if you don't want spoilers. This is a discussion board.)

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The discussion board should be for those who want to DISCUSS everything about a movie. There should be a warning to members that you may see spoilers within these posts. IF you want to read about a movie before you go and see then read the REVIEWS - not the discussion boards! Discussion boards are fun to those who have seen the movie and want to debate what this scene meant; or why did they kill off this character so early in the film,,etc etc etc. How can you discuss a movie without spoiling it?? Stay away from these boards if you didn't see the movie.

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IF you want to read about a movie before you go and see then read the REVIEWS - not the discussion boards!
Some people prefer the opinions of regular moviegoers to critics.

For example, I clicked on two opposite sounding threads: 'This is the worst movie Aronofsky has ever made' and 'Incredible film'. Both had well-worded opinions without giving away a single plot point -- let alone the ending.

On the other hand, at least four topics have *spoilers* in the thread title. Those users were being considerate to people who haven't seen the film. The spoiler alert wasn't for
those who have seen the movie and want to debate what this scene meant; or why did they kill off this character so early in the film,,etc etc etc.'

As littlelady-3 commented, 'it's just good forum etiquette'...particularly in a thread title.


I'm frankly astonished at this ghastly metamorphosis

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"Some people prefer the opinions of regular moviegoers to critics."


Hello! McFly! Anyone home?!!...... How long have you been on IMDB? Above the Message Boards is "User Reviews". This movie for example has more than 1000 reviews from regular Joe Schmo members of IMDB. Were not talking NY times pro movie reviewers. If you cant get a wide variety of opinions of the movie you want to see from those, dont see the frigging movie! Just keep away from the message boards because you WILL get your feelings hurt when you see posts from people DISCUSSING THE MOVIE!!!!!

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Question: Why, then, does one see 'spoilers' so often on the IMDb boards?

Answer: Some people are considerate of others.

Otherwise, there would be no need for the word -- right McFly?

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"Spoiler Alert: Did Nina really die at the end?" doesn't really help, now does it?

And I don't want to have a board which looks like this:

• spoiler alert, question about the movie
• attention, spoilers, want to ask something
• What I thought ... [spoiler alert]
• Did she really ... spoilers obviously!!
• Spoiler question about the end (your suggestion)


As it is, you already have 25-50% of titles telling you nothing about the thread's content, but not to avoid spoilers but because the titles are meaningless and badly chosen. If you replace the rest of the titles with my examples quoted above, the board becomes unreadable.

So no, go whine elsewhere, we won't budge.

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Just now, I was on the Ex Machina board. A lot of people are discussing the movie.

So many threads with spoiler alerts, and not one page looks 'unreadable', as you put it. One is titled Ava's first outfit (Spoilers). Another is What does Ava want? Spoilers. Very specific, just as you like it.

If you've seen the movie, you'll know what they mean and can answer the questions. If you haven't, nothing is given away and you'd be stupid to click on them, right? And just think, it took no effort at all for those people to add the alert.

Thankfully, a lot of people are still considerate.

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Again, we won't make the forum thread titles unreadable.
Your own suggestion ("Spoiler question about the end") is a perfect example!!
Go whine elsewhere, we won't budge and won't let you neither restrict free speech nor spoil a free, meaningful exchange in the forums here.

End of discussion.

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The discussion board should be for those who want to DISCUSS everything about a movie. There should be a warning to members that you may see spoilers within these posts. IF you want to read about a movie before you go and see then read the REVIEWS - not the discussion boards! Discussion boards are fun to those who have seen the movie and want to debate what this scene meant; or why did they kill off this character so early in the film,,etc etc etc. How can you discuss a movie without spoiling it?? Stay away from these boards if you didn't see the movie.
completely agreed !!!

Some people prefer the opinions of regular moviegoers to critics. For example, I clicked on two opposite sounding threads: 'This is the worst movie Aronofsky has ever made' and 'Incredible film'. Both had well-worded opinions without giving away a single plot point -- let alone the ending.
you can do the same by sorting the reviews by "loved it" and "hated it" and clicking on "hide spoilers". Reviews on imdb are made by regular moviegoers like you and me.

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If you're reading a message board ABOUT A FILM on imdb, you're spoiling it yourself. The entire point of the imdb message board is to discuss the film. By your rationale, imdb should put "SPOILER" in front of the word "board" for each movie.

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To quote Mandy Whitsands:

Period.
End of discussion.


(unlike her, however, I won't post again about it)

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The movie was four years old at the point of this post.

(Consider a review site if you don't want spoilers. This is a discussion board.)

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Audience could have consider it part of the act (it was the first show at the premiere).

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maybe i read it here or aronofsky said it i'm not sure...but the blood was real & was supposed to represent her period, ie her fully coming into herself as a woman. so she didn't literally die, but the "sweet girl" died metaphorically.

THEY SHOOTIN'! ah, i made you look.

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The discussion board should be for those who want to DISCUSS everything about a movie. There should be a warning to members that you may see spoilers within these posts. IF you want to read about a movie before you go and see then read the REVIEWS - not the discussion boards! Discussion boards are fun to those who have seen the movie and want to debate what this scene meant; or why did they kill off this character so early in the film,,etc etc etc. How can you discuss a movie without spoiling it?? Stay away from these boards if you didn't see the movie.

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Yes she die at the end !
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GOD IS LOVE

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They did. One girl screams, the others gasp and the director freaks out and asks Nina what she did to herself. She definitely stabbed herself but I guess it can be argued both ways in terms of whether she actually died. The ending strongly implies death to me, though.


"that hexagon-face bitch, she's so passive-aggressive."
-SpencerFan

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I agree. It seems like she did die symbolically, figuratively, and literally. Especially with her vision gradually becoming white most likely does signify death coming upon her.

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