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Question for the 'anti torture' people..


Let me give you a hypothetical situation. Obviously this is something that very few people would ever encounter, but hypothetically could.

Let's say you had captured a criminal..someone that your child or spouse or parent ect was holding capitave and for randsom. Let's say this person told you that your child was being raped and burtalized, and being held in a horrible enviorment. And you have no idea where they are, and you know that you do not find out soon, they will die. The only way that the criminal would ever let them live, is if you gave into a demand that he gave. And lets assume this demand was something you could never actually give into, because you dont have what the criminal is asking for.

Now you have this criminal in your house ( along with other people, but without police involvement), and they are the only person that holds the location to allow your child/wife/parent to go free. Are you telling me you wouldnt do ANYTHING you could to get them to saftey? I know most of you would, and I sure would. I could take them apart piece by piece, and burn every square inch of their body until they told me what I needed to know...and 99% of people eventually give into physical torture, it's a proven fact.

Now this movie was basically showing that times 10 million. 10 million Americans ( odds are you or people you know) would suffer horrible fates unless information was gathered. So if you answered yes to my question, why would you answer no to something MUCH more severe? The answer is obvious, because its easy to take the moral high road, until something actually involves you personally.

Just something to think about.

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Your scenario reminds me of the movie "Prisoners"

Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?

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hypothetical arguments are not all that great

as a society, do we want to torture? [i vote no]


life is stranger than fiction

marc

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Pro torture people love to invent scenarios, as long as the following conditions are met:

There will be massive casualties
Torture is the only means of gathering intelligence
Torture is effective at gathering intelligence.

The last 2 are not true, and the first is extremely rare. How often do you capture someone who is holding a nuclear bomb? It has never happened yet.

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