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Avengers Is A Movie With A Master Legacy, The Best Ever On Many Levels!

posted 11 years ago by Marvelouis
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The Avengers is still the king of the genre all-time and probably will remain so until Avengers: Age Of Ultron tries to take the title away. Sure, Iron Man 3, The Wolverine and Thor: The Dark World all are high quality films. Yet, none managed to deliver at the level that Avengers did.

Even prior, films like Iron Man, X2 and Spider-Man 2 were amazing. Yet, Avengers topped them all.

Honestly, nothing the character of Batman has ever been in has been in the mix for the title this century. Batman 89 set the genre on its ear and was grand fun back in the day. Once X-Men opened the door with an assist from Blade, it's been a new ball game. A game were the Nolan Batman fit in but has since been deemed overrated by most people.

Case in point most recently, TDKR will forever be known as that disappointing third film that no one outside of the fanboy community likes and the one that resulted in that horrible shooting tragedy. As has now been officially noted in the history books, TDKR's RT score is elevated only because of intimidation and threats that critics wanted to avoid. That's THE legacy of things like TDKR. I know that hurts Nolan fanboys but often the truth hurts. They have started to learn to live with it but they do so with bitter anger toward Marvel movies past, present and future. The fact that they are STILL trolling here and reading things like this says it all. They can't even find contentment on their own boards and pages. That appears to be their legacy as a fan base. More's the pity.

Avengers legacy is being the king of the genre.

[–] blueberryicedcoffee 11 years ago

Stop making excuses for why TDKR is by far the most well-received threequel in CBM history. It's sad to see you do this for so long. I thought acceptance would set in for you at some point.

"If you thought TDKR was brutal, wait til you see the Mandarin in IM3." -DFX, Dec 2012

[–] Sonicrules 11 years ago

Ehh you're half right mon ami. Avengers is the king of the Marvel movies but no way hosay is TDKR going to be remembered as the disappointing third movie nobody except fanboys saw.

It made too much money and got too high scores for that. Oh yeah.

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

This film will never be forgotten.

[–] themanwithnoshame2016 8 years ago

This film has already been forgotten by IMDb top 250.

[–] billbrown7071 11 years ago

The fact that they are STILL trolling here and reading things like this says it all.

omg you actually said that??!!

Uber you are by far the biggest and saddest troll ever ...you say "The fact that they are STILL trolling here"

YOU are still trolling here !!

YOU have never stopped trolling here!!

yes there are nolan trolls on this board but NONE are even close to the saddness of your trolling...

you literally have 60+ screen names that you use to bump old thread and to have fake conversations with yourself

every post , every reply you make you say things are ridiculous, you say things that LITERALLY couldn't be further from the truth...you are the only one on earth who agrees with the things you say! YOU LIVE IN YOUR OWN WORLD

The fact that they are STILL trolling here says it all

no the fact that you have changed your trolling says it all!!

you started out making thread about how great The Avengers and MCU movies were and then with your 60+ screen names you would have convos with yourself

but now its changed, every post you make is about TDKR or Nolan Fanboy , sure you'll throw in some Avengers Or MCU stuff but the real reason why your posting now is because you have become completely Obsessed with TDKR, Nolan and Nolan Fans, your obsession with them has actually become greater than your love for the avengers and the other MCU movies

[–] BakedEel 11 years ago

TDKR will forever be known as that disappointing third film that no one outside of the fanboy community likes and the one that resulted in that horrible shooting tragedy...

The fact that this lonely, deluded bible-thumping piece of *beep* actually said the above quoted, and tried to include reference to that shooting in his babbled nonsense is more evidence of his relaxed grip on reality. A brief look thru the message board activity of his xdome2, elle-nino and Avengers1234 accounts will illustrate that he is a repugnant, homophobic and blinkered christian bigot of the lowest sort. The reason I think he's attached himself emotionally to the Avengers vs Nolan divide () is that TDKR featured that priest at the boys home who lost hope (in God, presumably) to save them from the bomb while Blake kept faith in Batman, and guess who got their faith rewarded? Avengers, meanwhile has that God-reference by Captain America, and it's been noted that the christian-right in America quite like Joss Whedons' work for various reasons they can extrapolate and read into it.

What we're seeing here is a possibly rare example of the worst of fandom and the worst of christian bigotry combined in one isolated *beep* personality, with access to a computer and hours of time to kill. The blind way he repeatedly drones on to himself and ignores anything that contradicts that is just the usual habit of a zealous christian.

[truth]I am bisexual. If you dont like that: you can blow me. If you do: same deal.[/truth]

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

That guy's brain is a bag full of cats. You can smell crazy on him.

[–] BakedEel 11 years ago

At least you admit it, finally! That's the first step. Call this an intervention, bro, we're worried about you... But don't worry, help is available:
http://www.brobible.com/life/article/how-to-get-laid/

[truth]I am bisexual. If you dont like that: you can blow me. If you do: same deal.[/truth]

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

At the heart of each of us, whatever our imperfections, there exists a need to get laid!

[–] BakedEel 11 years ago

My gawd, did you just... TELL THE TRUTH????!!!!!! lol, will wonders never cease?
Not so crazy as you look, huh?

[truth]I am bisexual. If you dont like that: you can blow me. If you do: same deal.[/truth]

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.

[–] Uberiffic 11 years ago

Avengers is a masterpiece any way you cut. It takes the genre to new heights and there are even critics that say it should have been nominated for best picture in 2012. When you deliver the best film your genre has ever seen, how is that not deemed a masterpiece?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCBiJ3QJnk&feature=player_embedded

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

I enjoyed Marvel's other films a lot but Avengers lands above them all. The one critique of a few of those films was the action. "Why didn't Iron Man and the Monger have a longer fight?" or "Thor vs The Destroyer should have lasted longer." No one is going to say anything like that with Avengers. Wave after wave of incredible action done superbly. The action beats are interwoven with each other perfectly. Following the epic Helicarrier stuff with that whole finale was like having incredible sex, sipping an energy drink and then going back to have even better sex. That's the cinematic version of total happiness and satisfaction.

[–] mightymac101 11 years ago

If they keep picking at it, how is it suppose to heal? Those Nolan cats just won't let it go.

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

Let's not get in to the Batman "debate" again because, frankly, that elevates that trilogy to a higher level by even mentioning it with Marvel's best. Things like Avengers are above such things.

I believe that it is because Marvel set up Avengers from the start and did so delivering some instant classics all on their own. Avengers then combined the greatness of what we've already seen but added a more epic film. Avengers IS be the greatest adventure film of all-time. No other franchise got individual solo films to develop a film's characters. They had the budget and the right guy in place and he made it all work. Most everyone is saying that Marvel's The Avengers redefines the word epic and that's why even the WB is rushing to copy them.

[–] mightymac101 11 years ago

The next Avengers will see the complete Tony Stark and I can't wait to see that. Nothing was easy about phase one and we all agree that the entire thing was masterfully crafted but phase two is already lining up as better.

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

Avengers love is the one coin you can never have too much of or be stingy with.

[–] tttl4077 11 years ago

Will Disney and thus Marvel be effected in the future from making films as great as this one?

Media industry ripples from Comcast-TWC merger...

The media industry is busy evaluating the impact of a Comcast-Time Warner Cable merger even if the DOJ clips the size of the deal a bit.

A key word for content providers today is leverage. A larger Comcast (CMCSA), (broadband and Pay-TV) would give it additional clout in negotiating retransmission contracts with networks (CBS, FOXA, AMCX, DISCA, SNI) and studios (DIS, TWX, LGF, SNE, DWA, VIAB) for home video sales.

The relationship between streaming firms and Comcast could get more complicated. Though studios rake in money from Netflix, if Comcast ever decides to charge its massive base of broadband subscribers on a usage basis - both Netflix (NFLX) and Hulu are in harm's way.

Companies with future ambitions in the online TV area (think Sony) might see additional pressures from a larger Comcast. In theory, the media giant could launch a similar national service.

[–] Kia00 11 years ago

http://24.media.tumblr.com/39e9ed82e727b81de19e31390539d6aa/tumblr_mk8 m08gZpa1s4xdz1o1_500.gif

[–] assman200 11 years ago

Follow your heart, but be quiet for a while first. Ask questions, then feel the answer. Learn to trust your heart.

[–] Logan8888 11 years ago

Look at this ASM2 quote...

Every time someone gets into spandex, the movie gets in trouble. The action sequences that typically let other Marvel movies to soar drag this one down to earth.

Please keep Garfield's Spidey away from the MCU. Why drag it down?

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

Sony may be in the mood to sell Spidey back faster than anyone thought! Maybe ASM2 being bad was a blessing after all?

[–] StarkTech 11 years ago

Who s even arguing it at this point?

[–] Coneydogg 10 years ago

No need to keep up with the Jones methinks.

[–] shacklefort 10 years ago

Feige wouldn't let it happen and seems to have a Spider-Sense to know what makes a great film.

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[–] Uberiffic 10 years ago

You question us? You question HIM? He, who put the scepter in your hand, who gave you ancient knowledge and new purpose when you were cast out, defeated?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCBiJ3QJnk&feature=player_embedded

[–] tttl4077 10 years ago

Is Avengers Assemble the best comic book film ever? That's a tough call but it's certainly the most exciting, and a true epic moment in cinematic history.

Not that tough really. Yes, it is the best.

[–] Dash1969 10 years ago

What's that buzzing noise I hear?

[–] ThomasMagnumPI 10 years ago

I can't imagine living without it.

[–] Allswell007 10 years ago

More incredible than the egg.

[–] Coneydogg 10 years ago

To meet at all, one must open ones eyes to another; and there is no true conversation no matter how many words are spoken, unless the eye, unveiled and listening, opens itself to the other.

[–] krieg8814254 11 years ago

Also because it's so damn smart.

Those questioning SHIELD's role or financing... led by Nick Fury as executive director (although he reports to a twelve-member council, whose identities even he does not know),[citation needed] this organization often operates as much as a covert agency as a quasi-military one, initially depicted as affiliated with the United States government.[citation needed] Later, S.H.I.E.L.D. was depicted as under the jurisdiction of the United Nations, with vast technological resources at its disposal, with U.N. General Assembly Resolutions and legislation passed in signatory nations aiding many of their operations. EVERY country as a member is required to funnel funds to the SHIELD budget. It's away from discretionary budget considerations of each member.

Some minds are like concrete. Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.