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To all the people complaining about Leto

posted 11 years ago by marc201072
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You do realize that is downright hypocritical right, allot of the people (on this board) complaining, claim to be gay or transgender. I am straight but am fine with whatever you choose to be. However you must have know what its like to be discriminated against, "I was told I can do this because I was gay..."ext. So why do you say Leto can't ACT like a transgendder person in a movie because he is a straight male? That is heteroophobic. So I guess straight people can not play gay people, and gay people can not play straight people.
Also, how many transgender actors did you see at the Oscars (or in general?)There are not that many transgender actors and virtually zero famous ones. I would prefer a straight male turn in a fantastic performance then a transgender being hired just because they are transgendered and then turning in a mediocre performance any day.

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[–] marc201072 11 years ago

To be honest I didn't mean it like that. I am sorry i put it that way but I know its not a choice and that is not what I meant. But its good you ignored 99% of the post to focus on one poorly chose word.

[–] debunkerboy 11 years ago

Freedom of 'choice', in the obvious sense you were using it, includes the concept of being free to follow your nature - slightly poor choice of words only because some defensive people will think you being snide and had a hidden agenda but your intention was clear.

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[–] marc201072 11 years ago

As already explained to you by two people I did not mean "choice" as in choice of sexuality but rather someones ability to express themselves the way they choose too. It is apparent you are merely here to play the hurt victim and act like I am simple minded and homophobic (booth of which I am not). You have no defines because there was no real argument. I suggest you stop restating yourself in order to gain sympathy because there is none that will come from me, or anyone here that understood the post.

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[–] marc201072 11 years ago

I was not flustered, neither were the other people who knew you were only trying to cause trouble. Just stop responding, you are making an idiot out of yourself

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[–] thope92 11 years ago

You're doing a fine job of it.

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[–] Frequency270 11 years ago

And yet you're doing such a brilliant job of it.

Congratulations.

Damion Crowley
All complaints about my post go to Helen Waite.

[–] pillix 10 years ago

Yeah... you just changed the subject of the discussion from Leto's Acting to homophobics...

This is not a very good film as I expected; it has to do with FDAs approval to treat emerging diseases and the desperation of the sick people who are dying and no real treatment is available.

Acting: i loved Leto and MM ... they are great in this particular film IMHO of course

[–] clearthinkernow 11 years ago

I assume you mean "conservative-minded". We have no interest at all in your relationships, whatever type they are. We also want the government out of everyone's bedroom. It is not the conservatives who keep bringing this up. This is strictly a propaganda-tactic of the left.

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[–] IceCharon 11 years ago

@marc201072
I agree, People that complaining about Jared Leto are flat out stupid.
1st J.Leto was mind blowing.period.
2nd "A transsexual/transgender should have played Rayon" ..... "why"? honestly why? any logical explanation? a reason?

[–] dunbar7 11 years ago

Right, and a real robot should have played C3PO. And a real shark should have played the shark in Jaws. Maybe they should have shot the entire cast of Apollo 13 into space, and had a real scarecrow play the part of the Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz. You see where I'm going with this, genius?

"She's, like, a biscuit older than me..."

[–] IceCharon 11 years ago

I agree with what you said (completely), but why you replied to my post?
You misunderstood my post, I am on the same side.

[–] dunbar7 11 years ago

I was backing you up, man. Just adding more thoughts of my own.

"She's, like, a biscuit older than me..."

[–] thedudeishere41 11 years ago

gay mans disease contracted also by drug users than given to innocent people. aids was brought to America by a gay guy. however liberals now have to change some facts.

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[–] marc201072 11 years ago

Fasbender was great but so was Leto. I think it probably should have gone to the main pirate in Captain Phillips though. That guy was terrifying.

[–] thizzler 11 years ago

I agree with all of your opinions except Leto can't act, defintely nothing mind blowing about him in this one tho ... Fasenbennder had by far the superior performance.

[–] shayneferry 11 years ago

Leto has never been much of an actor and this role did not change that.

I guess you haven't seen Requiem for a Dream?

[–] mme3924-1 10 years ago

>>>> Leto has never been much of an actor and this role did not change that. <<<

He's pretty, and that was part of the character, the role, and, I'm guessing, had much to do with his casting. I thought his performance was good, but then, what would have defined a bad performance? He was over the top, a caricature, but so was Rayon, his character.

[–] TxMike 11 years ago

While some people may be born genetically with an attraction to others of the same gender, sexuality is always a choice. We choose who to be sexual with, as we choose who to avoid being sexual with. There is absolutely nothing improper about your phrase " am fine with whatever you choose to be ".

Plus many who do choose homosexual relationships simply do so as a lifestyle choice without regard for what tendencies they were born with, and the same goes for heterosexual relationships. If you take "choice" out of the conversation then you also take humanity out.

So don't feel bad for your choice of words, and don't let anyone try to give you a hard time about it!

TxMike
Make a choice, to take a chance, to make a difference.

[–] mme3924-1 10 years ago

>>>>While some people may be born genetically with an attraction to others of the same gender, sexuality is always a choice. We choose who to be sexual with, as we choose who to avoid being sexual with. There is absolutely nothing improper about your phrase " am fine with whatever you choose to be ".

Plus many who do choose homosexual relationships simply do so as a lifestyle choice without regard for what tendencies they were born with, and the same goes for heterosexual relationships. If you take "choice" out of the conversation then you also take humanity out.

So don't feel bad for your choice of words, and don't let anyone try to give you a hard time about it!
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Here's a question I've always pondered. If a person's sexuality is decided in the womb, even before birth, a part of his/her DNA, so to speak, as seems to be the now accepted truth, what about identical twins? They have identical DNA, and yet there are cases in which one twin is homosexual and the other is not. Seriously, what's the answer? Anyone?

[–] underoathfan505 11 years ago

Well seeing as sheep don't have the ability to consent and children don't have the mental capacity to make a well informed decision you can't compare the two.

What is or is not considered a mental condition is determined purely by what the majority feels is normal, sane or "sound". Seeing as there hasn't been a general consensus by doctors, scientists or even the general public on whether or not it is considered a mental condition your decision to call it that doesn't make it true.

And to your point about gender dysphoria prior to "greedy plastic surgeons"; people with your bigoted mindset were even MORE prevalent and vitriolic towards homosexuality and transgender people in the past so it's no wonder people weren't screaming about it from the rooftops. Until you can prove there weren't transgender people in the past then you are just a hateful person trying to bring everyone who isn't exactly like you down.

[–] Citation_Needed 11 years ago

I'm not trying to keep anyone down. I'm trying to keep psychos in their place, not enable them and try and act like they are normal. That's why there are so many shootings, because everyone thinks they're okay, ignores them, and lets them walk around doing whatever the hell they want, until everyone is dead and they kill themselves.

Seeing as there hasn't been a general consensus by doctors, scientists or even the general public on whether or not it is considered a mental condition your decision to call it that doesn't make it true.

One, doctors aren't qualified to determine who is sane or not, and two there are studies but you don't know about them because you're not qualified either. I don't know what your college background or even if you went there, but that's why you don't know about them. No one is going to publicize their findings when a bunch of cry wolf vindictive liberals will drag people through the mud to discredit anyone disagrees with their unqualified opinion. They keep their findings within the scientific community but it's out there for anyone to find. Before people got ultra sensitive and P.C. it was already classified as a mental condition, the only thing that has changed is these psychos acting like freedom fighters who are being oppressed, and you're trying to pull the same shyt too.

[–] kittykittymeowmeow19 11 years ago

Homosexuality was back around the ancient Greeks times if not longer and so was transgender people. Look up famous cross dressers from history. There wasn't always a word for it but If you chose to educate yourself, and you won't because the ignorant never do, you see some cases were in fact transgender cases. Some may have did it because easier to pretend to be a man back in the day, but one was a female who went around as a male and was a member of the church as a priest, or something else of high status. Even when accused of rape she never revealed she was a female, a classic case of transgender more than simple cross dressing.

I wish I can go back in time and pinch those chubby little cheeks and tell you nothing will be ok.

[–] Citation_Needed 11 years ago

Yeah, great examples. The downfall of the Greek empire and a rapist. Why not bring up the Catholic church while you're at it? Really great argument for psychos you're forming here. And yet, I still don't see anything about genital mutilation. They didn't have knives back during Antiquity or are you saying Eunuchs were gay?

[–] kittykittymeowmeow19 11 years ago

Lol you are a special kind of stupid. She clearly wasn't guilty of rape because her accuser didn't know she didn't have penis. If you didn't get that, you're too stupid to have an argument with or fail troll attempt. EPIC FAIL.

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