Glamorizing laziness, refusal to help oneself, filthiness, sycophantism, utter waste of inherited wealth and resources, self-inflicted mental illness? What's next? Hallmark specials about trailer park tweakers? Or did being born rich make these two better? At least the tweakers probably at some point did something useful for society, like work at mcdonald's.
shareThe Beale's fortune was not "wasted" - Edith was cut out of her father's will and was left very little by her ex-husband, Phelan - most of it went to his new wife. And it's not as if they chose to live in squalor. They had people to do it for them for their whole lives, and when the time came that they could no longer afford it, they didn't know what to do, and soon, it simply got out of hand. A movie was made about these women not only because of their unfortunate descent out of social circles, but because of their charm, talent, personalities, wit, and their extremely interesting lives. If any "trailer park tweakers" with interesting pasts happen to pop, I see no reason why a movie shouldn't be made of them either. The Beales were extraordinary women.
" 'Tis very strange Men should be so fond of being thought wickeder than they are."
It's easy to be extraordinary when you can afford it.
shareBeing extraordinary is not something you can buy, hexrei, it is something the Beales had from birth, even after they lost their fortune. That's why they were documented!
" 'Tis very strange Men should be so fond of being thought wickeder than they are."
extraordinary= more than ordinary. someone with that kind of wealth is literally extraordinary. that opens the door to doing all kinds of extraordinary *beep* ordinary people have to work for a living which tends to limit their ability to be very extraordinary. obviously we could provide examples of people in ordinary circumstance being extraordinary, and people in extraordinary circumstance being ordinary, but it sure does make it easier to lead a remarkable life if you have extraordinary financial support.
shareI am aware of what the definition of extraordinary is. But we use it in different contexts. You think you can only be extraordinary if you are wealthy - but people from all ethnic backgrounds and levels of income can be extraordinary. It has to do with your personality and your soul, not the amount of money you have in your bank account. The fact that the Beale women were still extraordinary even though they didn't have much to their name at the time of the documentary really says something about their character.
" 'Tis very strange Men should be so fond of being thought wickeder than they are."
I actually addressed the fact that we can find extraordinary people in all walks. It was part of my rather short post.
I don't think they were very extraordinary overall. They were odd, or eccentric, and they were able to be because of their wealth. At the end of the film I felt rather embarrassed for them. Opportunity wasted.
LOL this post is hilarious! First off, "take a few 100 level psychology courses"? Yes because all professional counselors and psychologists graduated with only 100 level courses. Since you took a few 100 level courses that makes you a psychologist now? Please. I took a few 100 level poly-sci courses, I guess that qualifies me to be president.
I am so sick and tired of people knocking mental illness. Just because you do not understand mental illness does not mean they are not valid or do not exist. They clearly had mental issues and if they had those issues today, they would be receiving psychological help like most people do today. Back during their time psychological issues were embarrassing and made to be pushed under the rug as well as not being well known.
Early on they had money, but the money ran out and they were basically poor with no heat, no water, etc. There are many people today who have a mental issue and are homeless or live in shambles as well. Watch any of the shows about hording to see what I mean.
A person's mind can be damaged just like a person's body. If I walk on ice in the winter and it's unavoidable, of course I could slip and fall, and if I fell and broke a leg, no one would blame me for it. Same with them, they didn't choose to be in isolation then became mentally ill, they were mentally ill and in isolation.
I am sick and tired of people passing judgement on others, especially when they have something mentally wrong with them. I am also annoyed by people who took a few college classes, level 100 of course, and think with their small knowledge they are experts in the field.
Good you were embarrassed for them, but I really don't think if they were alive today they would really care about your opinion.
"Back during their time psychological issues were embarrassing and made to be pushed under the rug as well as not being well known."
monique,
that is not necessarily true. a great many people were treated for mental illness at that time, it was only the 70's, that's not that long ago. there certainly have been many advances made since that time.
for whatever reasons, the edies refused any type of medical care except for cataract problems.
just prior to big edie's death, she had taken a bad fall in her room and refused to be transported for care. she saw a podiatrist once and told him not to return.
when she was finally taken to a hospital, there was nothing that could be done for her, she died the next day. she was aware she was dying but didn't want to die at gg.
Just because a film tackles a subject does NOT mean it condones it. People like you react this way because they have a very moralistic view of the world. They think they can't talk about a subject without passing judgement, and making it clear that a: they would never do that and b: the people involved in doing it are stupid and should find a way out.
shareJust because a film tackles a subject does NOT mean it condones it. People like you react this way because they have a very moralistic view of the world. They think they can't talk about a subject without passing judgement, and making it clear that a: they would never do that and b: the people involved in doing it are stupid and should find a way out
You are a wise person.
shareOP: That was your idea of glamor? Uh, okay.
shareIt's ironic that the OP is casting judgment on others, when he clearly isn't blessed with robust emotional health in his own right. I'm predicting that he'll deflect my statement with some sarcastic remark, but it's plain to see that he's wasted his life, by wallowing in his own cauldron of hostility and defeat. At least the Edies were interesting. The OP is a garden variety sad sack. Now THAT'S disgusting.
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