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posted 14 years ago by cyberose23
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Lamia wanted the star to be as happy and glowy as possible before she cut out the heart- then couldn't hack it when the star got too glowy? Tristan was also standing right in the path of the burning hot star glow when Lamia was evaporated. So Tristan should have also died.

If it was just because she was looking at the light, Lamia might have been blinded if it wasn't hot, but since when does one die from standing in a bright light?

Nit picky I know. If someone has read the book, perhaps you could explain the situation better.

[–] Live_Dream 10 years ago

People are being too nice and forgetting about logic - to the point of forgetting about the film's own logic, by writing it off as a metaphor.

But Lamia has eaten "star heart" before and not died. Saying that the heart was too bright is like saying that, even though she's eaten, let's say, steak all her life, one steak was so delicious it killed her.

However different the film ending is from the book doesn't matter - the film is ignoring its own logic and just telling viewers to accept anything because it's a fantasy, which sucks. But as long as viewers keep accepting this, film makers will keep pulling this crap.

[–] adriebaby82 9 years ago

Ok, first off forget the book. When a piece of work changes mediums it is a whole new beast no matter how faithful it may stay to the original. Things cannot be exactly the same. Think about water and ice. Once water changes to ice you cannot treat it the same way.

Now to your first point. The witch wants the star as "glowy" as possible so why when it is at peak glowiness does it kill her?
The answer to this is quantity. The witches were only thinking in terms of a normal scale. They wanted the glowiness level to be highest but still within the normal range. I personally believe they were unaware there was even a higher level of glowiness as that of true love glowiness.
Anything can be deadly with too much.
Medication, a few pills gets rid of a headache...good thing :)
a whole bottle makes you OD... bad thing :(
Water, drinking water everyday very healthy...good thing :)
stand point blank in front of a dam as it bursts and you will probably die...bad thing :(
Ice cream, have a bowl and it's a good snack...good thing :)
have the whole carton and you get a brain freeze and thunder thighs...bad thing :(
So in conclusion, quantity of the glowiness is what killed her. It was just too much.

Now to the second point. Since Tristan was also standing in the way of the burning hot star glow so why didn't he die too?
The answer to this is similar to electricity. Yvain knows that Tristan does have the potential to be harmed, that is why she instructs him to hold on tight and close his eyes. While he is held tightly in her arms he is protected b/c he is "grounded" to her. And he has to close his eyes so he is not blinded by the light, rapped up like a douche another roner in the night, blinded by the light... sorry couldn't help myself.

I'm aware your post was 5 years ago but none of the responses really seemed to answer your questions. Hope this helps.

"Destiny is a fickle b!tch" LOST

[–] cyberose23 9 years ago

Is she a star or a lightbulb?
Sorry- no electricty involved with starglow so grounding is an excuse rather than a plothole fixer haha

Definition of star:
"Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements"

Still maintain if you "burn gas" to shine- tristan "hugging the sun" should have incinerated too along with the witch. Yvaine can't "direct her heat"- she's not electrical. Or else, if they're both merely standing in her bright light- bright lights don't kill anyone, in which case both he and the witch should have survived a flare even if the witch was just blinded afterwards- you can't be "hot" for one and just potentially blinding for the other that's a writer's cheat haha

[–] adriebaby82 8 years ago

First off, sorry for the tone of my last post. I must have been in a goofy mood at the time.

Ok, to the points...

Sorry- no electricty involved with starglow so grounding is an excuse rather than a plothole fixer haha

I didn't say she is electricity, I said it's similar, meaning they have the same principles but are not the same thing.

Definition of star:
"Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements"

Yes, very good! I agree that is the definition of a star ON OUR SIDE OF THE WALL. On the other side of the wall a star is a humanesque being with an unknown biological makeup. For all we know she can fart rainbows.

I'll admit I'm not stating facts. This is how I explain it to myself and it works for me. Lots of people have given you their opinions, which a lot of them fit for me too.
I think you're just bound and determined to not let your mind expand any further, which is also understandable because there is a lot to stretch the mind in all fantasy shows. Sometimes there's just that one piece of straw that breaks the camels back. I have my own instances like this for some movies.
Anyway, my point is I know I'm not going to convince you, so whatever.

"Destiny is a fickle b!tch"

[–] truffleshuffle03 8 years ago

Who says she is made up of any kind of gas? . I really don't see how placing real life into fantasy is going to do anything. THis is a fantasy movie so in this fantasy that is how the witch died. There is really no reason to try and say it could not happen because in real life it does not work like that. In this fantasy world that is how it it happens.
"Baby sister, I was born game and I intend to go out that way"

[–] simonknight 8 years ago

He was able to survive for the same reason he was able to join her in the night sky. He had been given the heart of a star.

Drink up, let's boo boo.

[–] Clouseau2 (164) 3 years ago

There are a bunch of reasons why this makes sense:

1) Tristan was wearing his Snowdrop flower that protected him from magical spells. If you consider that Yvaine, a magical being, was using her star magic to kill Lamia it would have protected him.

2) She told him to hold on to her tight. Both to make her happy so she could shine but also to protect him as presumably she could direct the light as all the magical beings in the film can direct their magic.

3) Lamia is a dark witch - a very bright light could be very harmful to a dark witch.

4) As others pointed out, the room wasn't damaged. Yvaine didn't kill Lamia with heat, but with bright light.

Lamia shouldn't have died that way *spoilers*

Lamia shouldn't have died that way spoilers