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How do Americans generally perceive Britain?


With the heavy influx of immigrants from the four corners of the earth, the rising crime rate and the fact that London as a city is barely 50% white British any more I thought that the American myth of Britain being a homogenous, immigrant free, prim and proper, rural country of little country villages with friendly vicars and church spires had been firmly put to rest.

Admittedly, I haven't spoken to many Americans about this topic, but of the 70% I have, most of them have held the view of Britain that is a very homogenous society of low crime rates, low immigration, high reverence in the royal family, have the lowest crime rates in Europe, are patriotic and in some cases are very religious.

As a British person, this image of Britain being a conservative, low-crime, homogenous country just doesn't sit with me. We're one of the most multicultural countries in Europe - even in the smallest towns in the UK people of races other than white are visibly represented and in the bigger cities they often number more than whites - and I'm not even getting onto the fact there's quite possibly getting on for a million Eastern Europeans living in the UK.

As for low crime rates, statisics often suggest we have some of the highest crime rates in Europe, which is quite plausible, there's some nasty bits of work in the UK. Patriotism and reverence for the royal family is long gone, quite often there have been cases of being putting a flag out on their house only for the local council to request it's removal. Flags create a massive stur in the UK, there is the constant fear they will offtend foreigers and upset the multi-cultural balance. As for the royal family, they are of no consequence to the UK anymore, you've got to remember even countries like Sweden and Holland have royal families.

As for religion, if you find a less religious country, let me know.

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I had visited Britain as a child in the 80's, where back then it did seem very homogenous. Many years later I lived and studied in Queen's Gate, London and I barely saw any British in that neighborhood. It was all Canadians, Australians, Indians, Poles, Malaysians, Ukrainians, etc.

These days it appears that, with the EDL and BNP butting heads with everyone, the rise of an Islamist youth movement, and general uncertainty of the populace, I think Americans feel that Britain has its share of issues.

Many Americans are intensely critical of the radical Muslim element in Britain, feeling it is the backfired result of too much political correctness

And as far as less religious countries, I'd say that Finland, Iceland and Japan are far more secular. There is still a religious climate in Britain

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I think the UK and the US have one HUGE tragic commonality: Both countries are being ruined by liberal governments.

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quite often there have been cases of being putting a flag out on their house only for the local council to request it's removal. Flags create a massive stur in the UK, there is the constant fear they will offtend foreigers and upset the multi-cultural balance.


I'm an American and I visited your country in 2009 and I have to say that my view of it as you described it was shattered particularly in London. In Glascow, our tour guide, a Scot, noticed a large Union Jack displayed from someones's deck. He referred to the flag as a fascist symbol and said they were most likely members of the "sinister BNP". Up until that point, the guide seemed like a very nice, well educated, moderate sort of guy. Not a lefty extremist at all. I couldn't believe that a fairly normal average person viewed his own national flag as a nazi symbol. As bad as pc is over here in the States, its not quite this bad...

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In Glascow, our tour guide, a Scot, noticed a large Union Jack displayed from someones's deck. He referred to the flag as a fascist symbol and said they were most likely members of the "sinister BNP".

I'll have to call you a liar on that point. Here in Glasgow, the Union Flag (to use its proper name, when not flown at sea) is widely used to represent Rangers Football Club. Any private citizen flying the Union Flag on his property is bound to be a Rangers supporter, not a BNP supporter (that party has even less support in Scotland than it does in England, for obvious reasons.)

The Union Flag is flown in Scotland (specifically here in Glasgow) by Rangers supporters far more than by Unionists (although the two sometimes go hand in hand) If your tour guide was Scottish, or even existed in the first place, he would have known this.

Also, the Union Flag is NOT the national flag of Scotland, that would be the Saltire.

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'On a weekend?'

'Well, it wasn't on purpose...'

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I am not a liar, you queer. The tour guide who was Scottish did state that the person displaying the Union Flag may have been a BNP supporter. If it was a BNP supporter, good for him. Perhaps he'll pay you a visit some day and give you a good hard kick in the head. Knock some sense into that brain washed head of yours...

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Then he was wrong as well as imaginary. Union Flag = Rangers supporter. Any Weegie knows that. The BNP scored a whopping 0.78% in the last Scottish election. They're such a minority here that they'd have to deport THEMSELVES under a strict adherence to their own policies!

As for kicking my head against the curb, being part Jewish I would expect nothing less from them, quite frankly...

Stay classy, Nazis

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'On a weekend?'

'Well, it wasn't on purpose...'

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Wrong perhaps, but not imaginary.

Now, time for you to go back into your closet and play with your boyfriend, weirdo...

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I couldn't care less what Americans think of Britain.

So when Americans desperately clamour to compare statistics (crime rates, etc) on online forums I can only marvel at the irrelevance of it all.

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I lived there for about a year and I was a victim of crime 4 different times. I lived in Cambridge. They stole my car, stripped it, then torched it. They stole my $10 bicycle (in my backyard, 2 meter high wall, locked gate). My roommates car was broken into at 4:30 in the afternoon. Stole the stereo face, but not the rest. I borrowed the car, went down to London. They broke the other window (other one was replaced from the first break in). Attempted to steal the stereo, stole my gf coat.

That being said, I enjoyed my time there immensely. All of the cars were UK spec cars there were broken into. But I never really felt for my safety which was nice.

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As home.

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It's absurd to suggest that the US has a lower crime rate than Britain or Australia. The US has a crime index of around 65, while Australia and Britain are in the low to mid 40s. See here: http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

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